From neteler@itc.it Thu Sep 30 18:05:55 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i8UG5tC31533; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:05:55 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8UG5nbe028507; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:05:49 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i8UG5n2w015092; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:05:49 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i8UG5n5C015090; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:05:49 +0200 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:05:49 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Cc: grass5 developers list , grasslist@baylor.edu Message-ID: <20040930160549.GZ12977@thuille.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: translations@grass.itc.it, grass5 developers list , grasslist@baylor.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] New 'translations' mailing list (i18N) Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear GRASS community, to better support ongoing and upcoming translations of GRASS, I have set up a new mailing list. http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations Translation related issues may be discussed there (how to start a new translation, how to merge 5.0 translations into 5.7 etc). This is an opportunity for non-programmers to contribute as messages can be easily translated. No programming skills required! Kind regards Markus Neteler -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From neteler@itc.it Thu Sep 30 18:30:50 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i8UGUoC31819; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:30:50 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8UGUjeY003154; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:30:45 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i8UGUj2w015219; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:30:45 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i8UGUj4J015217; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:30:45 +0200 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:30:45 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: grass5@grass.itc.it Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20040930163045.GC12977@thuille.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: grass5@grass.itc.it, translations@grass.itc.it References: <1095933651.21708.10.camel@badiou> <1096097469.8390.27.camel@badiou> <16728.57901.85885.398110@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <16728.57901.85885.398110@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: [GRASS5] french translation for GRASS-5.7 CVS Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 05:01:49AM +0100, Glynn Clements wrote: ... > 2. I note that the "keywrd" field in the history file is > internationlised, in lib/gis/history.c, line 154: > > sprintf(hist->keywrd,_("generated by %s"), G_program_name()); > > I'm not sure that we should be internationalising strings which are > written to files. The creator's locale setting should affect the text > which they see, but shouldn't necessarily determine the text in any > files which they create. I think that strings which are written to files should not be internationalised. Once someone changes the language the confusion would start. > 3. UTF-8 isn't a good choice for message catalogs. Much of GRASS won't > handle multi-byte encodings correctly (e.g. curses assumes 1 byte == 1 > character == 1 cell). I suggest using single-byte encodings such as > ISO-8859-1 instead (FWIW, Alex' Russian translation is in KOI8-R). > > E.g. regarding the French translation for the message in point 2: > > #: ../lib/gis/history.c:154 > #, c-format > msgid "generated by %s" > msgstr "généré par %s" > > If this text is written to a terminal which doesn't use UTF-8 (and > UTF-8 terminals are still in the minority), it will appear as garbage; > e.g. if the terminal uses ISO-8859-1, "généré" will appear as > "généré". What's the recommendation for the upcoming Asian support? Markus From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Thu Sep 30 18:49:53 2004 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i8UGnrC32493 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:49:53 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BAC11AA1A for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:49:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 23232-06 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:49:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (laborde-5-82-229-244-3.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.244.3]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2150311AA02 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:49:51 +0200 (CEST) From: Emmanuel Saracco To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20040930162547.GA12977@thuille.itc.it> References: <1095933651.21708.10.camel@badiou> <1096097469.8390.27.camel@badiou> <16728.57901.85885.398110@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> <1096350610.30729.3.camel@badiou> <20040930162547.GA12977@thuille.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Message-Id: <1096562995.2450.17.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:49:55 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: [GRASS5] french translation for GRASS-5.7 CVS Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le jeu 30/09/2004 à 18:25, Markus Neteler a écrit : hi markus, [...] > Commited. I also updated the encoding of the DE (German file). thanks. why not use "iconv" to convert po files on the fly during configuration process? a new rule with something like "iconv -f iso-8859-1 -t utf-8 po/xx.po > po/xx.po-new" should do the trick (with some more coding to detect and update the "content-type" header field for each converted po file). and why not a new configure's option to let the user choose himself how to convert translations (something like "--with-i18n=utf-8") according to its needs? I've never saw that in any other project, but... just ideas... bye From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Thu Sep 30 20:20:59 2004 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i8UIKxC00828 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:20:59 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AA7311A9D8 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:20:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29593-08 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:20:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (laborde-5-82-229-244-3.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.244.3]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6C311A9D4 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:20:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Emmanuel Saracco To: translations@grass.itc.it Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1096568462.2450.21.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:21:02 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [GRASS translations] [de translation] errors while merging Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: hi, doing a "make update-po" I have the following errors for "de" translation: ----- msgmerge: grassmods_de.po: warning: Charset missing in header. Message conversion to user's charset will not work. grassmods_de.po:11:2: parse error grassmods_de.po:11: keyword "grassmods_de" unknown grassmods_de.po:11: keyword "po" unknown grassmods_de.po:84: missing `msgstr' section grassmods_de.po:85:2: parse error grassmods_de.po:85: keyword "grassmods_de" unknown grassmods_de.po:85: keyword "po" unknown grassmods_de.po:102: missing `msgstr' section grassmods_de.po:103:2: parse error grassmods_de.po:103: keyword "grassmods_de" unknown grassmods_de.po:103: keyword "po" unknown grassmods_de.po:132: missing `msgstr' section grassmods_de.po:133:2: parse error grassmods_de.po:133: keyword "grassmods_de" unknown grassmods_de.po:133: keyword "po" unknown msgmerge: found 15 fatal errors Merging failed ----- -> current grass51 CVS. bye From glynn.clements@virgin.net Thu Sep 30 20:47:58 2004 Received: from n082.sc1.cp.net (h36.rdg.cp.net [209.228.29.85]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i8UIlwC00946; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 20:47:58 +0200 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (62.252.68.188) by n082.sc1.cp.net (7.0.030.2) id 41569ACA00056223; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:47:52 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i8UIat004669; Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:36:55 +0100 From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: <16732.21063.337025.658571@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 19:36:55 +0100 To: Markus Neteler Cc: grass5@grass.itc.it, translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20040930163045.GC12977@thuille.itc.it> References: <1095933651.21708.10.camel@badiou> <1096097469.8390.27.camel@badiou> <16728.57901.85885.398110@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> <20040930163045.GC12977@thuille.itc.it> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id i8UIlwC00946 Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: [GRASS5] french translation for GRASS-5.7 CVS Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Markus Neteler wrote: > > 3. UTF-8 isn't a good choice for message catalogs. Much of GRASS won't > > handle multi-byte encodings correctly (e.g. curses assumes 1 byte == 1 > > character == 1 cell). I suggest using single-byte encodings such as > > ISO-8859-1 instead (FWIW, Alex' Russian translation is in KOI8-R). > > > > E.g. regarding the French translation for the message in point 2: > > > > #: ../lib/gis/history.c:154 > > #, c-format > > msgid "generated by %s" > > msgstr "généré par %s" > > > > If this text is written to a terminal which doesn't use UTF-8 (and > > UTF-8 terminals are still in the minority), it will appear as garbage; > > e.g. if the terminal uses ISO-8859-1, "généré" will appear as > > "généré". > > What's the recommendation for the upcoming Asian support? Whatever we do, support for "wide" character sets (more than 256 "characters") is likely to be a lot of work. In particular, anything which uses curses will need significant changes. Similarly, other code which tries to "align" output (e.g. r.info) may require changes. In that situation, there isn't much to choose between the different encodings; they all require multiple bytes per character, and you can't assume that all characters have the same width on the terminal. It's really down to local conventions. Except where a particular program insists on a specific encoding (a lot of free/open-source software forces the use of UTF-8), Japanese uses EUC-JP or Shift-JIS, Chinese uses GB-2312 or Big5 and Korean uses EUC-KR. Any of these may be used directly or wrapped in ISO-2022. -- Glynn Clements From neteler@itc.it Fri Oct 1 10:54:41 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i918sfC11564 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:54:41 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i918sail027572; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:54:36 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i918sa2w023796; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:54:36 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i918saUe023794; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:54:36 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:54:36 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Emmanuel Saracco Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] [de translation] errors while merging Message-ID: <20041001085436.GD23577@thuille.itc.it> References: <1096568462.2450.21.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1096568462.2450.21.camel@badiou> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, on my machine it works: make update-po ...................................... done. Merged new messages into grasslibs\_fr.po .. done. Merged new messages into grassmods\_de.po .. done. Merged new messages into grassmods\_fr.po thuille:locale[443.187] grep -i Charset po/grassmods_de.po "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1\n" It is defined. Are you sure to use the latest CVS? Markus On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 08:21:02PM +0200, Emmanuel Saracco wrote: > hi, > > doing a "make update-po" I have the following errors for "de" > translation: > > ----- > msgmerge: grassmods_de.po: warning: Charset missing in header. > Message conversion to user's charset > will not work. > grassmods_de.po:11:2: parse error > grassmods_de.po:11: keyword "grassmods_de" unknown > grassmods_de.po:11: keyword "po" unknown > grassmods_de.po:84: missing `msgstr' section > grassmods_de.po:85:2: parse error > grassmods_de.po:85: keyword "grassmods_de" unknown > grassmods_de.po:85: keyword "po" unknown > grassmods_de.po:102: missing `msgstr' section > grassmods_de.po:103:2: parse error > grassmods_de.po:103: keyword "grassmods_de" unknown > grassmods_de.po:103: keyword "po" unknown > grassmods_de.po:132: missing `msgstr' section > grassmods_de.po:133:2: parse error > grassmods_de.po:133: keyword "grassmods_de" unknown > grassmods_de.po:133: keyword "po" unknown > msgmerge: found 15 fatal errors > Merging failed > ----- > > -> current grass51 CVS. > > bye From mihastaut@yahoo.co.uk Fri Oct 1 11:04:45 2004 Received: from web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.136]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id i9194jC11697 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:04:45 +0200 Message-ID: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.229.192.102] by web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 01 Oct 2004 10:04:40 BST Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 10:04:40 +0100 (BST) From: Miha Staut To: translations@grass.itc.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [GRASS translations] Slovenian Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi! I am willing to translate GRASS in Slovenian language. The problem is that I am very new to this kind of task. Markus promised no programming skills are necessary. Is there an easy step by step howto on the net. Thanks, Miha Staut ___________________________________________________________ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Fri Oct 1 11:14:45 2004 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i919EjC12308 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:14:45 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B79DF11A9DA for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:14:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27099-03 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:14:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (laborde-5-82-229-244-3.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.244.3]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FC311A9D8 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:14:43 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] [de translation] errors while merging From: Emmanuel Saracco To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20041001085436.GD23577@thuille.itc.it> References: <1096568462.2450.21.camel@badiou> <20041001085436.GD23577@thuille.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Message-Id: <1096622087.2831.49.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:14:47 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le ven 01/10/2004 à 10:54, Markus Neteler a écrit : > Hi, hi, > on my machine it works: > > make update-po > ...................................... done. > Merged new messages into grasslibs\_fr.po > .. done. > Merged new messages into grassmods\_de.po > .. done. > Merged new messages into grassmods\_fr.po > > > thuille:locale[443.187] grep -i Charset po/grassmods_de.po > "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1\n" > > It is defined. Are you sure to use the latest CVS? yes... but looking at the details there was a conflict on grassmods_de.po in my local repository. I've just delete it and after a new cvs update it is ok now :-) sorry, bye From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Fri Oct 1 11:22:53 2004 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i919MrC12343 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:22:53 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 338B511A9EB for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:22:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 27653-04 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:22:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (laborde-5-82-229-244-3.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.244.3]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8BAA11A9D8 for ; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:22:51 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Slovenian From: Emmanuel Saracco To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Message-Id: <1096622556.2831.58.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:22:36 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le ven 01/10/2004 à 11:04, Miha Staut a écrit : > Hi! hi, > I am willing to translate GRASS in Slovenian language. > The problem is that I am very new to this kind of > task. Markus promised no programming skills are > necessary. Is there an easy step by step howto on the > net. get the last CVS version of both "grass" and "grass51" modules and read the following pages: http://grass.baylor.edu//faq/cvs_howto.html http://freegis.org/grass/grass-cvs.html http://grass.itc.it/grasscvstags.html http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass51/ (read the INSTALL file) http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass51/locale/ (read the README file) bye From neteler@itc.it Fri Oct 1 11:45:13 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i919jDC13469; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:45:13 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i919j8E5014397; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:45:08 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. 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(8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i919j7fU024637; Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:45:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 11:45:07 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Miha Staut Cc: translations@grass.itc.it, grasslist@baylor.edu, grass5 developers list Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Slovenian Message-ID: <20041001094507.GG23577@thuille.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: Miha Staut , translations@grass.itc.it, grasslist@baylor.edu, grass5 developers list References: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Oct 01, 2004 at 10:04:40AM +0100, Miha Staut wrote: > Hi! > > I am willing to translate GRASS in Slovenian language. > The problem is that I am very new to this kind of > task. Markus promised no programming skills are > necessary. Is there an easy step by step howto on the > net. OK, I have added a new web page: http://grass.itc.it/i18n.html The translation procedure may be further improved in future, but it is already much simpler than it ever was for 5.0. Note: Only a few messages are currently extracted as the 'gettext' macros have to be integrated into 5.7. But to warm up you may start to translate the 3xx messages which are already extractable. Enjoy (and contribute :-) Markus From glynn.clements@virgin.net Sat Oct 2 10:30:17 2004 Received: from n068.sc1.cp.net (h14.rdg.cp.net [209.228.29.64]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i928UGC12864; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:30:16 +0200 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (62.252.68.181) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.0.030.2) id 41572A130006D44D; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 08:30:07 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i928PqQ07713; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 09:25:52 +0100 From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16734.26128.495827.212640@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 09:25:52 +0100 To: Hamish Cc: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it, grass5@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS5] Re: [GRASSLIST:4446] Re: [GRASS translations] Slovenian In-Reply-To: <20041002162749.726e2fe8.hamish_nospam@yahoo.com> References: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20041001094507.GG23577@thuille.itc.it> <20041002162749.726e2fe8.hamish_nospam@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hamish wrote: > > > I am willing to translate GRASS in Slovenian language. > > > The problem is that I am very new to this kind of > > > task. Markus promised no programming skills are > > > necessary. Is there an easy step by step howto on the > > > net. > > > > OK, I have added a new web page: > > http://grass.itc.it/i18n.html > > question: > > if we change a _("text string") in the original source code, do we need > to go though all the translation sets and adjust them too? or can the > "make update-po" step somehow figure this out? You don't *need* to do anything. If the string can't be found in the message catalogue, the original (English) string will be returned. Apart from that, keeping the message catalogues in sync with the source code is the responsibility of the translators, not of the programmers. > If I do that but don't have the correct encodings installed on my system > (eg for Russian) is this likely to mess up the entire translation file? Don't try to edit message catalogues for unfamiliar languages, particularly those in unfamiliar encodings. -- Glynn Clements From glynn.clements@virgin.net Sun Oct 3 06:05:16 2004 Received: from n068.sc1.cp.net (h14.rdg.cp.net [209.228.29.64]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i9345GC29596; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 06:05:16 +0200 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (62.252.1.4) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.0.030.2) id 41572A130007637C; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 04:05:08 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i932Xb101251; Sun, 3 Oct 2004 03:33:37 +0100 From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16735.25857.137889.676@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 03:33:37 +0100 To: Paul Kelly Cc: Hamish , Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it, grass5@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS5] Re: [GRASSLIST:4446] Re: [GRASS translations] Slovenian In-Reply-To: References: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20041001094507.GG23577@thuille.itc.it> <20041002162749.726e2fe8.hamish_nospam@yahoo.com> <16734.26128.495827.212640@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Paul Kelly wrote: > >> question: > >> > >> if we change a _("text string") in the original source code, do we need > >> to go though all the translation sets and adjust them too? or can the > >> "make update-po" step somehow figure this out? > > > > You don't *need* to do anything. If the string can't be found in the > > message catalogue, the original (English) string will be returned. > > > > Apart from that, keeping the message catalogues in sync with the > > source code is the responsibility of the translators, not of the > > programmers. > > Does that mean that the English versions of all the messages are set in > stone in the source code while the translations can be changed freely > without affecting anything else? I'm not sure if I understand it > correctly, but if all the other translations are based on the exact form > of words of the English message, then presumably it would not be a good > idea for developers to ever try and change the messages any more (to make > them less confusing or more informative), as the translations would not > then work? Or are the messages identified by the line they occur in the > source file or some other mechanism like that? The string literal in the source code is used as the key into the message catalogue, so if you change the string, all of the .po files have to be changed accordingly. However, if you want to change the string which is used for English locales without changing the source code, you can just create an English message catalogue. -- Glynn Clements From hamish_nospam@yahoo.com Sat Oct 2 06:27:59 2004 Received: from mailhub1.otago.ac.nz (mailhub1.otago.ac.nz [139.80.64.218]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i924RvC22185; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 06:27:57 +0200 Received: from galadriel.otago.ac.nz (galadriel.otago.ac.nz [139.80.64.213]) by mailhub1.otago.ac.nz (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i924RoW3016299; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:27:50 +1200 Received: from ocean3 (ocean3.otago.ac.nz [139.80.35.38]) by galadriel.otago.ac.nz (8.12.8/8.12.8) with SMTP id i924RnSx019704; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:27:50 +1200 (NZST) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 16:27:49 +1200 From: Hamish To: Markus Neteler Cc: translations@grass.itc.it, grass5@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASSLIST:4446] Re: [GRASS translations] Slovenian Message-Id: <20041002162749.726e2fe8.hamish_nospam@yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20041001094507.GG23577@thuille.itc.it> References: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20041001094507.GG23577@thuille.itc.it> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: M List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > I am willing to translate GRASS in Slovenian language. > > The problem is that I am very new to this kind of > > task. Markus promised no programming skills are > > necessary. Is there an easy step by step howto on the > > net. > > OK, I have added a new web page: > http://grass.itc.it/i18n.html question: if we change a _("text string") in the original source code, do we need to go though all the translation sets and adjust them too? or can the "make update-po" step somehow figure this out? If I do that but don't have the correct encodings installed on my system (eg for Russian) is this likely to mess up the entire translation file? thanks, Hamish From paul-grass@stjohnspoint.co.uk Sat Oct 2 11:52:54 2004 Received: from mail.uksolutions.net (customer-relay-1.mail.uksolutions.net [217.10.128.165]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i929qsC13160 for ; Sat, 2 Oct 2004 11:52:54 +0200 Received: from agrippa.ukshells.co.uk ([217.10.143.90]) by mail.uksolutions.net with smtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CDg3g-00049l-IF for translations@grass.itc.it; Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:20:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 28719 invoked from network); 2 Oct 2004 09:52:54 -0000 Received: from services.agrippa.ukshells.co.uk (217.10.143.91) by agrippa.ukshells.co.uk with SMTP; 2 Oct 2004 09:52:54 -0000 Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 10:52:54 +0100 (BST) From: Paul Kelly To: Glynn Clements cc: Hamish , Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it, grass5@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS5] Re: [GRASSLIST:4446] Re: [GRASS translations] Slovenian In-Reply-To: <16734.26128.495827.212640@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Message-ID: References: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20041001094507.GG23577@thuille.itc.it> <20041002162749.726e2fe8.hamish_nospam@yahoo.com> <16734.26128.495827.212640@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: >> >> question: >> >> if we change a _("text string") in the original source code, do we need >> to go though all the translation sets and adjust them too? or can the >> "make update-po" step somehow figure this out? > > You don't *need* to do anything. If the string can't be found in the > message catalogue, the original (English) string will be returned. > > Apart from that, keeping the message catalogues in sync with the > source code is the responsibility of the translators, not of the > programmers. Does that mean that the English versions of all the messages are set in stone in the source code while the translations can be changed freely without affecting anything else? I'm not sure if I understand it correctly, but if all the other translations are based on the exact form of words of the English message, then presumably it would not be a good idea for developers to ever try and change the messages any more (to make them less confusing or more informative), as the translations would not then work? Or are the messages identified by the line they occur in the source file or some other mechanism like that? Paul From neteler@itc.it Mon Oct 4 09:39:18 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i947dIC06514; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:39:18 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i947dDtj019974; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:39:13 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i947dD2w010148; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:39:13 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i947dD0a010146; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:39:13 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 09:39:13 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: grass5@grass.itc.it Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASSLIST:4446] Re: [GRASS translations] Slovenian Message-ID: <20041004073913.GE8783@thuille.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: grass5@grass.itc.it, translations@grass.itc.it References: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20041001094507.GG23577@thuille.itc.it> <20041002162749.726e2fe8.hamish_nospam@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041002162749.726e2fe8.hamish_nospam@yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, Oct 02, 2004 at 04:27:49PM +1200, Hamish wrote: > > > I am willing to translate GRASS in Slovenian language. > > > The problem is that I am very new to this kind of > > > task. Markus promised no programming skills are > > > necessary. Is there an easy step by step howto on the > > > net. > > > > OK, I have added a new web page: > > http://grass.itc.it/i18n.html > > > question: > > if we change a _("text string") in the original source code, ^^ ^ Related question: It's a pretty hard job to change all the message strings manually. It there a way to (semi-)automate that? Markus From glynn.clements@virgin.net Mon Oct 4 18:10:32 2004 Received: from n068.sc1.cp.net (h14.rdg.cp.net [209.228.29.64]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i94GAWf01871; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 18:10:32 +0200 Received: from cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (62.252.4.245) by n068.sc1.cp.net (7.0.030.2) id 41572A130008EC35; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 16:10:26 +0000 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) id i94FwSi30618; Mon, 4 Oct 2004 16:58:28 +0100 From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16737.29476.288014.491525@cerise.nosuchdomain.co.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 16:58:28 +0100 To: Markus Neteler Cc: grass5@grass.itc.it, translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS5] Re: [GRASSLIST:4446] Re: [GRASS translations] Slovenian In-Reply-To: <20041004073913.GE8783@thuille.itc.it> References: <20041001090440.72356.qmail@web25402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20041001094507.GG23577@thuille.itc.it> <20041002162749.726e2fe8.hamish_nospam@yahoo.com> <20041004073913.GE8783@thuille.itc.it> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Markus Neteler wrote: > > > > I am willing to translate GRASS in Slovenian language. > > > > The problem is that I am very new to this kind of > > > > task. Markus promised no programming skills are > > > > necessary. Is there an easy step by step howto on the > > > > net. > > > > > > OK, I have added a new web page: > > > http://grass.itc.it/i18n.html > > > > > > question: > > > > if we change a _("text string") in the original source code, > ^^ ^ > Related question: It's a pretty hard job to change all the message > strings manually. It there a way to (semi-)automate that? Not really. There's no way that an automated process can realistically determine whether or not a given string should be translated. Strings which are only shown to the user can be translated, while strings which are part of a defined data format can't. 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You could translate most of the pot file into Chinese, and it would currently work, provided that you use an encoding which is compatible with ASCII (i.e. you can interleave ASCII and Chinese text without special treatment). Most of the strings in GRASS are just treated as lists of bytes which are written to a stream; GRASS doesn't care about the encoding. E.g. option descriptions, prompts and error messages fall into this category. The main case which won't work is text which is displayed using the curses library, or which is padded with spaces for alignment. In this situation, the code assumes that one byte represents one character which will occupy one character "cell" on the terminal. Unfortunately, there is no easy way to determine how any specific string is used. You would need to examine the source code where the string occurs. -- Glynn Clements From sholl@gmx.net Wed Oct 6 21:01:37 2004 Received: from linux.gdf-hannover.de (213-133-123-148.clients.your-server.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i96J1bK25289 for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:01:37 +0200 Received: by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 505) id 9B95B2DB3; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:01:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (G5335.g.pppool.de [80.185.83.53]) by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B412D9D for ; Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:01:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 21:01:34 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20041006210134.34698ce4@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12cvs122 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://holl-net.dyndns.org/~steph/index.php X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --Signature=_Wed__6_Oct_2004_21_01_34_+0200_XicjPAtfODKgbdMY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear List, If there is no german translation of the po-files yet, I would like to translate grasslibs.po files to grasslibs_de.po. Just asking to avoid double work if someone already did it... Cheers Stephan -- Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de --Signature=_Wed__6_Oct_2004_21_01_34_+0200_XicjPAtfODKgbdMY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBZEEQEg9SKhGUagkRArr2AKCXww3KhMaRfXjzxVg49DiJ7K8j2wCeOEc2 g8rZWQg/GGkCujQThG9B8nM= =FZ4B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Wed__6_Oct_2004_21_01_34_+0200_XicjPAtfODKgbdMY-- From neteler@itc.it Thu Oct 7 15:25:03 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i97DP3K01338 for ; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:25:03 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i97DOwEF003214; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:24:58 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i97DOvHe028456; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:24:57 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i97DOu22028454; Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:24:56 +0200 Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 15:24:56 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: wen Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Could Grass support Chinese now? Message-ID: <20041007132456.GJ27809@thuille.itc.it> References: <4163FA10.000126.08876@bjapp14> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4163FA10.000126.08876@bjapp14> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:58:40PM +0800, wen wrote: > If cannot ,could i translate the pot file into Chinese now, > and would it work when grass support multi-bytes languages? I am working on integrating the 5.0's multi-bytes support into GRASS 5.7. Coming soon... Markus From neteler@itc.it Fri Oct 8 09:50:15 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i987oFK09682 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:50:15 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i987o9O0003976; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:50:09 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i987o9He001458; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:50:09 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i987o8NN001456; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:50:08 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 09:50:08 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: wen Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: Re: [GRASS translations] Could Grass support Chinese now? Message-ID: <20041008075008.GB885@thuille.itc.it> References: <4165EDB7.000001.01060@bjapp36> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4165EDB7.000001.01060@bjapp36> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Oct 08, 2004 at 09:30:31AM +0800, wen wrote: > > I am working on integrating the 5.0's multi-bytes support > > into GRASS 5.7. Coming soon... > > > > Markus > > Does that mean it will be easier than now to translate > grass? That's generally right. > Then i should just translate the .pot file but have no need > to browse the source code Yes and no: - the source code is now automatically browsed by the make[file], see the locale/README how to do it - still most of the message indications are missing in the source code (the gettext macro), so for one time the source code has to be touched and the fprintf macro inserted where missing - the multi-byte support is not yet included in 5.7, I am working on that these days (merging the 5.0 efforts into 5.7). To start, it's sufficient to translate the .po files, but you will have to download the latest source code to generate it (automatically). Regards Markus From neteler@itc.it Fri Oct 8 15:37:09 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i98Db9K12795 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:37:09 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. 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(8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i98Db4jZ005480; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:37:04 +0200 Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:37:04 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Stephan Holl Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] German Translations Message-ID: <20041008133704.GL4498@thuille.itc.it> References: <20041006210134.34698ce4@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041006210134.34698ce4@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:01:34PM +0200, Stephan Holl wrote: > Dear List, > > If there is no german translation of the po-files yet, I would like to > translate grasslibs.po files to grasslibs_de.po. > > Just asking to avoid double work if someone already did it... So far nobody known. You are welcome to start... (maybe "plattdeutsch" next year?) Markus From sholl@gmx.net Fri Oct 8 15:46:44 2004 Received: from linux.gdf-hannover.de (mail.gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i98DkiK12837 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:46:44 +0200 Received: by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 505) id 8BEF426D7F; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:46:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (h-213.61.145.130.host.de.colt.net [213.61.145.130]) by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7655B26CDB for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:46:39 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:46:40 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] German Translations Message-ID: <20041008154640.3126d703@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20041008133704.GL4498@thuille.itc.it> References: <20041006210134.34698ce4@localhost> <20041008133704.GL4498@thuille.itc.it> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12cvs122 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://holl-net.dyndns.org/~steph/index.php X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --Signature=_Fri__8_Oct_2004_15_46_40_+0200_7osx_5frL7SluMey Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Markus, On Fri, 8 Oct 2004 15:37:04 +0200 Markus Neteler wrote: > On Wed, Oct 06, 2004 at 09:01:34PM +0200, Stephan Holl wrote: > > Dear List, > > > > If there is no german translation of the po-files yet, I would like > > to translate grasslibs.po files to grasslibs_de.po. > > > > Just asking to avoid double work if someone already did it... > > So far nobody known. You are welcome to start... > (maybe "plattdeutsch" next year?) OK, first I start with "normal" german..., but next year comes soon!! :-) I will send you the related file asap. Cheers Stephan -- Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de --Signature=_Fri__8_Oct_2004_15_46_40_+0200_7osx_5frL7SluMey Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBZppFEg9SKhGUagkRAin8AJ4pp3/FVgrOEinKbptFbzFwIIxFsACgkMuB //mGdFOGZbaWtkbNecTfNhk= =s3g2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Fri__8_Oct_2004_15_46_40_+0200_7osx_5frL7SluMey-- From neteler@itc.it Sun Oct 17 16:01:23 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i9HE1NK08020; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:01:23 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i9HE1IYh032039; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:01:18 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i9HE1IHe025691; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:01:18 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i9HE1HK9025689; Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:01:17 +0200 Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:01:17 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: grass5 developers list Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20041017140117.GC25661@thuille.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: grass5 developers list , translations@grass.itc.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] 5.7: Multibyte/Freetype support added to XDRIVER Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, based on 5.0-i18N I have merged the relevant changes for Multibyte/Freetype support into the display system. I am not sure if it works, as the new d.font.freetype (for font selection) stops at one point. Maybe it needs updates for Freetype2? The HTML page of d.font.freetype explains how it has to be used, it should work for any Freetype font, it was developed in particular for Japanese/Vietnamese/Chinese. Assistance welcome... Markus From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Tue Oct 19 06:20:06 2004 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org (volubilis.easter-eggs.org [84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i9J4K5K27488 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:20:06 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B0711A9FC for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:20:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 01812-03 for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:20:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (laborde-5-82-229-244-3.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.244.3]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B25911A9FB for ; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:20:02 +0200 (CEST) From: Emmanuel Saracco To: translations@grass.itc.it Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-eg54B2gW83XnYlo0NOD2" Message-Id: <1098159611.2411.9.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 06:20:11 +0200 Subject: [GRASS translations] [PO][fr][update] grassmods_fr.po Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-eg54B2gW83XnYlo0NOD2 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi, CVS french update. bye --=-eg54B2gW83XnYlo0NOD2 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=grassmods_fr.po Content-Type: text/x-gettext-translation; name=grassmods_fr.po; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit # French translation of grassmods.pot # This file is distributed under the same license as the GRASS package. # Copyright (C) 2004 THE GRASS'S COPYRIGHT HOLDER # Emmanuel Saracco , 2004 # msgid "" msgstr "" "Project-Id-Version: grassmods fr 5.7.0\n" "Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: \n" "POT-Creation-Date: 2004-10-19 06:08+0200\n" "PO-Revision-Date: 2004-10-19 06:14+0200\n" "Last-Translator: Emmanuel Saracco \n" "Language-Team: French \n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit" #: ../display/d.font.freetype/main.c:33 msgid "" "Selects the font in which text will be displayed on the user's graphics " "monitor." msgstr "" "Selectionnez la police à utiliser pour afficher le texte sur le moniteur graphique." #: ../display/d.font.freetype/main.c:40 msgid "Path to TrueType font (including file name)" msgstr "Chemin pour la police TrueType (nom de fichier inclu)" #: ../display/d.font.freetype/main.c:47 msgid "Character encoding" msgstr "Encodage du caractère" #: ../display/d.font.freetype/main.c:58 msgid "No graphics device selected" msgstr "Aucune sortie graphique sélectionnée" #: ../display/d.font.freetype/main.c:117 #, c-format msgid "" "\n" "Setting release of FreeType\n" msgstr "" "\n" "Paramétrage du nettoyage de FreeType\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:45 #, c-format msgid "Enter rules, \"end\" when done, \"help\" if you need it.\n" msgstr "" "Entrez une règle, \"end\" une fois terminé, \"help\" si vous en avez " "besoin.\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:47 #, c-format msgid "fp: Data range is %.25f to %.25f\n" msgstr "fp: L'intervalle va de %.25f à %.25f\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:49 #, c-format msgid "Data range is %ld to %ld\n" msgstr "L'intervalle va de %ld à %ld\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:110 ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:114 msgid "Your color rules do not cover the whole range of data!" msgstr "Vos règles de couleurs n'englobent pas la totalité des données!" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:188 #, c-format msgid "Enter a rule in one of these formats:\n" msgstr "Entrez une règle dans l'un des formats suivants:\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:190 #, c-format msgid " val color\n" msgstr "val couleur\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:191 #, c-format msgid " n%% color\n" msgstr " n%% couleur\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:192 #, c-format msgid " nv color\n" msgstr " nv couleur\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:193 #, c-format msgid " default color\n" msgstr " couleur par défaut\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:194 #, c-format msgid "color can be one of:\n" msgstr "la couleur peut être l'une de celles-ci:\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:196 #, c-format msgid "or an R:G:B triplet, e.g.: 0:127:255\n" msgstr "ou un triplet R:G:B, ex.: 0:127:255\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:237 #, c-format msgid "** warning: R:G:B value(s) out of range [0..255]: %d:%d:%d **\n" msgstr "" "** attention: la(es) valeur(s) R:G:B est(sont) en dehors des limites " "[0..255]: %d:%d:%d **\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:238 ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:254 #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:267 ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:279 #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:289 ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:301 #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:376 ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:404 #, c-format msgid "** rule is not added **\n" msgstr "** la règle n'a pas été ajoutée **\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:253 #, c-format msgid "** warning: R G B value(s) out of range [0..255]: %d %d %d **\n" msgstr "" "** attention: la(es) valeur(s) R G B est(sont) en dehors des limites " "[0..255]: %d %d %d **\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:266 ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:288 #, c-format msgid "** warning: no such value **\n" msgstr "** attention: aucune valeur **\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:402 #, c-format msgid "%s:line %d:%s\n" msgstr "%s:ligne %d:%s\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:403 #, c-format msgid "** bad color specification **\n" msgstr "** mauvaise indication de couleur **\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:424 #, c-format msgid "%s - unknown color\n" msgstr "%s - couleur inconnue\n" #: ../raster/r.colors/rules.c:425 #, c-format msgid "Valid colors are:\n" msgstr "Les couleurs valides sont:\n" --=-eg54B2gW83XnYlo0NOD2-- From neteler@itc.it Tue Oct 19 18:58:16 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i9JGwGK01266 for ; 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(8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id i9JGwAgZ009566; Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:58:10 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:58:10 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Emmanuel Saracco Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] [PO][fr][update] grassmods_fr.po Message-ID: <20041019165810.GP16978@thuille.itc.it> References: <1098159611.2411.9.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1098159611.2411.9.camel@badiou> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Oct 19, 2004 at 06:20:11AM +0200, Emmanuel Saracco wrote: > hi, > > CVS french update. > > bye Thanks! In CVS now... Markus From sholl@gmx.net Wed Oct 20 16:19:55 2004 Received: from linux.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i9KEJtK10388 for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:19:55 +0200 Received: by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 505) id D40F4275F9; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:19:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (h-213.61.145.130.host.de.colt.net [213.61.145.130]) by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF7B270BA for ; Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:19:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 16:19:43 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20041020161943.5c627c00@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12cvs124 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://holl-net.dyndns.org/~steph/index.php X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear List, Markus has updated the German translation-files in CVS. Cheers Stephan -- Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de From sholl@gmx.net Tue Oct 26 21:49:45 2004 Received: from linux.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i9QJnjK13923 for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:49:45 +0200 Received: by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 505) id C39472E52; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:49:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (I906d.i.pppool.de [85.73.144.109]) by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D4B2DFC for ; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:49:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 21:49:25 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20041026214925.6d06dff5.sholl@gmx.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12cvs134 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://holl-net.dyndns.org/~steph/index.php X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --Signature=_Tue__26_Oct_2004_21_49_25_+0200_gMoLJ46ZfZEK8pE2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Dear List, is there an option to translate the GUI (d.m) as well with the *.po-Files? Cheers Stephan -- Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de --Signature=_Tue__26_Oct_2004_21_49_25_+0200_gMoLJ46ZfZEK8pE2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBfqpHEg9SKhGUagkRAt35AKC4qKWGhLDuflzriLtlhPMEzkI3SwCgm/da 8c2fC1fqZhsiojZDly5c0mA= =v8jN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Tue__26_Oct_2004_21_49_25_+0200_gMoLJ46ZfZEK8pE2-- From glynn@gclements.plus.com Wed Oct 27 03:55:43 2004 Received: from cerise.gclements.plus.com (gclements.plus.com [84.92.46.14]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i9R1taK16545 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 03:55:36 +0200 Received: from cerise.gclements.plus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cerise.gclements.plus.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id i9R1t8qJ012882; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:55:08 +0100 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.gclements.plus.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i9R1t8Pf012879; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:55:08 +0100 From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <16766.65532.212477.553130@cerise.gclements.plus.com> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:55:08 +0100 To: Stephan Holl Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] translate d.m In-Reply-To: <20041026214925.6d06dff5.sholl@gmx.net> References: <20041026214925.6d06dff5.sholl@gmx.net> X-Mailer: VM 7.17 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Stephan Holl wrote: > is there an option to translate the GUI (d.m) as well with the > *.po-Files? No. Tcl doesn't have a gettext binding. There is the msgcat package, which performs a similar task; lib/gtcltk/gmsg.tcl provides an interface to it. However, that isn't used at present in the tcltkgrass/d.m code, so if you want to translate the UI, you will have to msgcat-ize the code first. OTOH, lib/init/gis_set.tcl does use it, so you can use that as an example. -- Glynn Clements From sholl@gmx.net Wed Oct 27 11:30:02 2004 Received: from linux.gdf-hannover.de (mail.gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i9R9U2K19553 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:30:02 +0200 Received: by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 505) id 281FB2987C; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:29:51 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (h-213.61.145.130.host.de.colt.net [213.61.145.130]) by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BB492E78 for ; Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:29:49 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2004 11:29:43 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] translate d.m Message-ID: <20041027112943.19e303e3.sholl@gmx.net> In-Reply-To: <16766.65532.212477.553130@cerise.gclements.plus.com> References: <20041026214925.6d06dff5.sholl@gmx.net> <16766.65532.212477.553130@cerise.gclements.plus.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 0.9.12cvs134 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://holl-net.dyndns.org/~steph/index.php X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello Glynn, On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 02:55:08 +0100 Glynn Clements wrote: > > Stephan Holl wrote: > > > is there an option to translate the GUI (d.m) as well with the > > *.po-Files? > > No. Tcl doesn't have a gettext binding. There is the msgcat package, > which performs a similar task; lib/gtcltk/gmsg.tcl provides an > interface to it. OK, I see. thanks for the clarification. > > However, that isn't used at present in the tcltkgrass/d.m code, so if > you want to translate the UI, you will have to msgcat-ize the code > first. OTOH, lib/init/gis_set.tcl does use it, so you can use that as > an example. I will have a closer look at it when there is more time. THanks anyway. Cheers Stephan -- Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de From edmund@helmug.gr Thu Oct 28 18:18:43 2004 Received: from cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk (cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.210]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id i9SGIfK32140 for ; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 18:18:42 +0200 Received: from modem-1979.lynx.dialup.pol.co.uk ([217.135.199.187]) by cmailm2.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.41) id 1CNCyz-0002dz-Eu for translations@grass.itc.it; Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:18:37 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v613) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed To: translations@grass.itc.it From: Edmund Blackadder Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:18:14 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.613) Subject: [GRASS translations] Greek localization? Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi list, I wonder if 1)someone has already started greek localisation and 2) if there is interest for one :-) I would be glad to start working on it Kostas Theofilis From joel@infovia.com.ar Mon Nov 1 12:12:39 2004 Received: from infomail2.infovia.com.ar ([200.51.80.52]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iA1BCcK02219 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 12:12:39 +0100 Received: from conversion-daemon.tdimso52.backend.tdata.com.ar by tdimso52.backend.tdata.com.ar (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 Patch 1 (built Jan 28 2004)) id <0I6H00C01ZM6YI00@tdimso52.backend.tdata.com.ar> (original mail from joel@infovia.com.ar) for translations@grass.itc.it; Mon, 01 Nov 2004 08:24:17 -0300 (ART) Received: from ark179.arch.gu.se ([130.241.59.179]) by tdimso52.backend.tdata.com.ar (Sun ONE Messaging Server 6.0 Patch 1 (built Jan 28 2004)) with ESMTPA id <0I6H00M8IW3SHG50@tdimso52.backend.tdata.com.ar> for translations@grass.itc.it; Mon, 01 Nov 2004 07:07:06 -0300 (ART) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 10:44:04 +0100 From: Joel In-reply-to: <200410291001.i9TA1kK07249@grass.itc.it> To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-id: <200411011044.04161.joel@infovia.com.ar> Organization: Leiva Benegas Corp. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-disposition: inline References: <200410291001.i9TA1kK07249@grass.itc.it> User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id iA1BCcK02219 Subject: [GRASS translations] consult Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Well, I am new here, and the only thing that I can do it is to hel with the spanish translation, I don+t know how to proced, if some one can help? thanks. El Viernes 29 Octubre 2004 12.01, translations-request@grass.itc.it escribió: > Send translations mailing list submissions to > translations@grass.itc.it > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > translations-request@grass.itc.it > > You can reach the person managing the list at > translations-admin@grass.itc.it > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of translations digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Greek localization? (Edmund Blackadder) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > To: translations@grass.itc.it > From: Edmund Blackadder > Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2004 17:18:14 +0100 > Subject: [GRASS translations] Greek localization? > > Hi list, > > I wonder if 1)someone has already started greek localisation and 2) if > there is interest for one > > :-) > > I would be glad to start working on it > > Kostas Theofilis > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > > > End of translations Digest From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Mon Nov 1 18:26:00 2004 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org (volubilis.easter-eggs.org [84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iA1HPvK15625 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:26:00 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4577611A9B6 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:25:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11350-09 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:25:54 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.0.3 (laborde-5-82-229-244-3.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.244.3]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7368911A9D1 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:25:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] consult From: Emmanuel Saracco To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <200411011044.04161.joel@infovia.com.ar> References: <200410291001.i9TA1kK07249@grass.itc.it> <200411011044.04161.joel@infovia.com.ar> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 18:26:03 +0100 Message-Id: <1099329964.22645.0.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le lundi 01 novembre 2004 à 10:44 +0100, Joel a écrit : Hi, > Well, I am new here, and the only thing that I can do it is to hel with the > spanish translation, I don+t know how to proced, if some one can help? > thanks. http://grass.itc.it/i18n.html Bye From cidacenolaza@infoaire.com.ar Mon Nov 1 18:56:32 2004 Received: from server.infoaire.com.ar (server.infoaire.com.ar [200.80.33.51]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iA1HuUK17146 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 18:56:31 +0100 Received: from PABLO (cicyttp.infoaire2.com.ar [200.80.33.50]) by server.infoaire.com.ar (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id iA1IFEM27045 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:15:15 -0300 Message-ID: <002f01c4c03e$a2981e00$cd2c94c0@PABLO> Reply-To: "CICyTTP - Lab 11" From: "CICyTTP - Lab 11" To: Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 15:14:31 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002C_01C4C025.7CE630C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean Subject: [GRASS translations] GRASS spanish translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002C_01C4C025.7CE630C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joel and everybody Now we seems to be two interested in more information about how to = proceed in the translation of grass to Spanish. 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Eliseo Cantellano Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México ----- Original Message ----- From: translations-request@grass.itc.it To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: translations digest, Vol 1 #15 - 3 msgs Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 12:01:12 +0100 > > Send translations mailing list submissions to > translations@grass.itc.it > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > translations-request@grass.itc.it > > You can reach the person managing the list at > translations-admin@grass.itc.it > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of translations digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. consult (Joel) > 2. Re: consult (Emmanuel Saracco) > 3. 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Download your mail into your computer with Outlook and Outlook Express US$24.95/yr Powered by www.M3xico.com From carreira@esalq.usp.br Mon Nov 8 14:38:42 2004 Received: from carpa.ciagri.usp.br (qmailr@carpa.ciagri.usp.br [143.107.209.25]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id iA8DceK16350 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 14:38:41 +0100 Message-Id: <200411081338.iA8DceK16350@grass.itc.it> Received: (qmail 5564 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2004 13:17:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO carpa.ciagri.usp.br) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Nov 2004 13:17:09 -0000 To: translations@grass.itc.it Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Originating-IP: [143.107.212.201] Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 11:17:09 -0200 User-Agent: IMHO/0.98.3 (Webmail for Roxen) From: Pablo Torres Carreira MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: [GRASS translations] Portuguese translation. Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I want to start translating GRASS software and documentation to brazilian portuguese but I don't have a clue on how to do that. I started using GRASS for agriculture and ambiental integration in my university and I plan to reach a full free software solution on GIS for digital inclusion. I would be pleased if someone could tell me how to start. Pablo T. Carreira carreira@esalq.usp.br From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Mon Nov 8 15:42:58 2004 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org (volubilis.easter-eggs.org [84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iA8EgvK17772 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:42:57 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BCC11A8E9 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:42:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06421-08 for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:42:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from ortie.easter-eggs.fr (unknown [10.0.0.72]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D662C11A86E for ; Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:42:50 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Portuguese translation. From: Emmanuel Saracco To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <200411081338.iA8DceK16350@grass.itc.it> References: <200411081338.iA8DceK16350@grass.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:42:50 +0100 Message-Id: <1099924970.2287.57.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le lundi 08 novembre 2004 à 11:17 -0200, Pablo Torres Carreira a écrit : Hi, > I want to start translating GRASS software and documentation to > brazilian portuguese but I don't have a clue on how to do that. You can start here: http://grass.itc.it/i18n.html [...] Bye From neteler@itc.it Wed Nov 17 09:42:46 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iAH8gkK27153 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:42:46 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAH8gf3S029325 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:42:41 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAH8ggZ1016278 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:42:42 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAH8ggnb016276 for translations@grass.itc.it; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:42:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:42:42 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20041117084242.GD13672@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] i18N status Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear translators, right now I have updated the .po files in CVS, merging into the recently added messages. In case that you work on a translation, please update from CVS: cd grass57/locale cvs up -dP It will take care to merge things with your changes. Usually no conflicts will appear; in case of a conflict (indicated in the file with <<<<<<<<< and --- and >>>>>>> characters) please use a text editor to polish the file. Then again kbabel, poEDIT or whatever you like. The current status is: grasslibs_cs.po: 97 translated messages, 4 fuzzy translations, 299 untranslated messages. grasslibs_de.po: 382 translated messages, 4 fuzzy translations, 14 untranslated messages. grasslibs_fr.po: 333 translated messages, 11 fuzzy translations, 56 untranslated messages. grasslibs_ja.po: 6 translated messages, 394 untranslated messages. grassmods_cs.po: 0 translated messages, 166 untranslated messages. grassmods_de.po: 107 translated messages, 2 fuzzy translations, 57 untranslated messages. grassmods_fr.po: 24 translated messages, 2 fuzzy translations, 140 untranslated messages. grassmods_ja.po: 1 translated message, 18 fuzzy translations, 147 untranslated messages. Please keep on translating, in case of problems don't hesitate to ask. And a recommendation: better to send translated files often. If you wait too long, things may already be modified again and we would have extra work to syncronize it. If you post often, it may take us less than two minutes to add it to CVS! Best Markus From neteler@itc.it Wed Nov 17 09:53:34 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iAH8rYK27208 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:53:34 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAH8rTMY000694 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:53:29 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAH8rUW7016315 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:53:30 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAH8rUul016313 for translations@grass.itc.it; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:53:30 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 09:53:30 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20041117085329.GE13672@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] gettext macro update Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear translators, the procedure to add further gettext macros (the indication for messages to get extracted for translation) has changed: A further change is necessary which now gives advantage to allow other external software (QGIS, whatever) to make use of GRASS messages. In details (revised procedure): Generally, to support i18N multiple languages, message strings in GRASS must be modified from fprintf ( ..., "...\n", ...); to G_message ( _("..."), ...); 4 Steps: a) to replace: - fprintf (stdout, with G_message ( - fprintf (stderr, with G_message ( b) to add: - the macro _( ) c) to remove: - \n at the end of single message strings d) Also needed to be added: #include "glocale.h" This line has to be added to each C file which contains user messages, preferably as last #include statement. Such strings will be then extracted automatically into the POT file(s). See for example ./vector/v.what.rast/main.c Enjoy the search-replace function of your preferred editor to do these changes. Please check carefully the changes then. Finally, to submit, just create a CVS snapshot: cvs diff -u file > file.diff Then submit the diff file(s) to either me or another developer. Thanks! Markus From neteler@itc.it Wed Nov 17 15:51:50 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iAHEpoK29972 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:51:50 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAHEpiwH021084 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:51:44 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id iAHEpjdI020671 for ; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:51:45 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAHEpjct020669 for translations@grass.itc.it; Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:51:45 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2004 15:51:45 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20041117145145.GC20438@thuille.itc.it> References: <419B625F.3000105@itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <419B625F.3000105@itc.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: gettext macro update Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear translators, to avoid problems with new line characters, we have to announce a change in the G_message() update procedure. This changes simply skips step three and reduces the necessary steps from 4 to 3. The change: On Wed, Nov 17, 2004 at 09:53:30 +0100, Markus Neteler wrote: > c) to remove: > - \n at the end of single message strings -> just DON'T do it. Keep \n if present. ------------------ The full procedure again: Generally, to support i18N multiple languages, message strings in GRASS must be modified from fprintf ( ..., "...\n", ...); to G_message ( _("...\n"), ...); Three steps: 1) to replace (see example above: a) fprintf (stdout, with G_message ( b) fprintf (stderr, with G_message ( 2) to add (see example above): the macro _( ) which encapulates the message 3) to be added to file.c header: #include "glocale.h" This line has to be added to each C file which contains user messages, preferably as last #include statement. All these messages strings will be then automatically extracted into the message files. SUMMARY: Keep the message as-is. Only step 1-3 from above list is needed. Thanks and sorry for the confusion, Markus From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Sun Nov 21 09:04:10 2004 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org (volubilis.easter-eggs.org [84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iAL848K00971 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:04:08 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3670C11A782 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:04:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06063-04 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:04:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.0.3 (laborde-5-82-229-244-3.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.244.3]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A89311A778 for ; Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:04:06 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] i18N status From: Emmanuel Saracco To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20041117084242.GD13672@thuille.itc.it> References: <20041117084242.GD13672@thuille.itc.it> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-yunwFboWQGN7p6YX1ZCg" Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 09:04:07 +0100 Message-Id: <1101024247.8807.1.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-yunwFboWQGN7p6YX1ZCg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Le mercredi 17 novembre 2004 à 09:42 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : > Dear translators, Hi, [...] > And a recommendation: better to send translated files often. If you wait too long, > things may already be modified again and we would have extra work to syncronize it. > If you post often, it may take us less than two minutes to add it to CVS! 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(8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAMFqIpZ026498; Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:52:18 +0100 Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:52:18 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Emmanuel Saracco Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] i18N status Message-ID: <20041122155218.GA26245@thuille.itc.it> References: <20041117084242.GD13672@thuille.itc.it> <1101024247.8807.1.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1101024247.8807.1.camel@badiou> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Nov 21, 2004 at 09:04:07AM +0100, Emmanuel Saracco wrote: > Le mercredi 17 novembre 2004 à 09:42 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : > > > Dear translators, > > Hi, > > [...] > > > And a recommendation: better to send translated files often. If you wait too long, > > things may already be modified again and we would have extra work to syncronize it. > > If you post often, it may take us less than two minutes to add it to CVS! > > Here you are :-) Excellent! In CVS now along with DE changes from Stephan Holl. Current status: grasslibs_cs.po: 97 translated messages, 4 fuzzy translations, 299 untranslated messages. grasslibs_de.po: 395 translated messages, 5 untranslated messages. grasslibs_fr.po: 400 translated messages. grasslibs_ja.po: 6 translated messages, 394 untranslated messages. grasslibs_ru.po: 0 translated messages, 338 fuzzy translations, 62 untranslated messages. grassmods_cs.po: 0 translated messages, 183 untranslated messages. grassmods_de.po: 174 translated messages, 9 fuzzy translations, 3 untranslated messages. grassmods_fr.po: 186 translated messages. grassmods_ja.po: 1 translated message, 33 fuzzy translations, 149 untranslated messages. grassmods_ru.po: 0 translated messages, 65 fuzzy translations, 118 untranslated messages. Please continue :-) Markus From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Thu Nov 25 18:50:12 2004 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org (volubilis.easter-eggs.org [84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iAPHoA307713 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:50:11 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10FE11A7A9 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:50:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14265-09 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:50:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.0.3 (laborde-5-82-229-244-3.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.244.3]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2355911A766 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:50:07 +0100 (CET) From: Emmanuel Saracco To: GRASS Translations List Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-BNh6Q2neXaVkUbFqtmLE" Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 17:50:07 +0100 Message-Id: <1101401407.13404.6.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] [Update] fr - 2004112500 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --=-BNh6Q2neXaVkUbFqtmLE Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Update for fr translation. 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(8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iAPH7ZhC009606; Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:07:35 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2004 18:07:35 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Emmanuel Saracco Cc: GRASS Translations List Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] [Update] fr - 2004112500 Message-ID: <20041125170735.GA9466@thuille.itc.it> References: <1101401407.13404.6.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1101401407.13404.6.camel@badiou> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Nov 25, 2004 at 05:50:07PM +0100, Emmanuel Saracco wrote: > Hi, > > Update for fr translation. > Thanks, in CVS now. Markus From lists@webmapit.com.br Fri Dec 10 14:33:17 2004 Received: from hm61.locaweb.com.br (hm61.locaweb.com.br [200.213.197.161]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id iBADXF327408 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 14:33:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 2250 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2004 12:33:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.47) by hm61.locaweb.com.br with QMTP; 10 Dec 2004 12:33:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 24308 invoked by uid 12344); 10 Dec 2004 12:33:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20041210123312.24307.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> From: "Eduardo Patto Kanegae" Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 10:33:12 -0200 To: translations@grass.itc.it CC: carreira@esalq.usp.br References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: LocaMail X-IPAddress: 200.206.67.99 X-Sender: lists@webmapit.com.br MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [GRASS translations] RE: Portuguese translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I checked up the link http://grass.itc.it/i18n.html but sound it talks only about translation of *.po files . I'm interested on translating GRASS documentation ( man pages? any others ?) and have GRASS 5.7 installed. Can I just translate *.html of man pages to a new "pt_BR" directory? or should I translate another source of files? Does the man pages that comes with 5.7 is ideal for that, or should I pick up another version? And how not to translate the same of anyone has already done? best regards, Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br ICQ: 303747254 Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver Fórum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** From neteler@itc.it Fri Dec 10 16:06:18 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iBAF6I327916 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:06:18 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. 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(8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iBAE6B1E032005; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:06:11 +0100 Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:06:11 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Eduardo Patto Kanegae Cc: translations@grass.itc.it, carreira@esalq.usp.br Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] RE: Portuguese translation Message-ID: <20041210140611.GC31792@thuille.itc.it> References: <20041210123312.24307.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20041210123312.24307.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Eduardo, to translate the GRASS 5.7 documentation, please download the source code (latest!! best from CVS to keep in sync) and to take the files 'description.html'. The translated files (then called 'description_pt_BR.html' for example) we should insert into the CVS for future maintenance. Anything else would get outdated quickly or lost. In general all GRASS 5.7 modules (should) have such a file, however, we are continuously updating them. Translators should be aware of that and take care to keep the translated files updated as well. Let me suggest to start with a few important pages. Then we (me?) will have to extend the HTML/MAN page creation engine to take care of integrating well the translated pages upon compile time. Please note that the header/footer/parameters/flags section is generated *automatically* while everything below the DESCRIPTION section is maintained manually. So: no need to translate the first part with parameters and flags. This will appear translated automatically once the messages in the C code got translated (po files). But this requires changes in the C code which are (slowly) done by programmers/contributors. Summary: Yes, please translate the manual pages. To do so, the module related 'description.html' files have to be translated. Best is to use an ASCII editor to avoid that messy HTML code get's inserted which won't be properly translated to MAN format later. Thanks Markus On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 10:33:12AM -0200, Eduardo Patto Kanegae wrote: > Hi, > > I checked up the link http://grass.itc.it/i18n.html but sound it talks only about translation of *.po files . I'm interested on translating GRASS documentation ( man pages? any others ?) and have GRASS 5.7 installed. > > Can I just translate *.html of man pages to a new "pt_BR" directory? or should I translate another source of files? > > Does the man pages that comes with 5.7 is ideal for that, or should I pick up another version? > > > And how not to translate the same of anyone has already done? > > best regards, > > Eduardo Patto Kanegae > http://www.webmapit.com.br > ICQ: 303747254 > > Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver > Fórum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum > > ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From lists@webmapit.com.br Fri Dec 10 20:53:01 2004 Received: from hm61.locaweb.com.br (hm61.locaweb.com.br [200.213.197.161]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id iBAJqx330280 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2004 20:53:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 30029 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2004 18:52:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.47) by hm61.locaweb.com.br with QMTP; 10 Dec 2004 18:52:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 31459 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2004 18:52:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.0.241?) (eduardo@webmapit.com.br@200.206.134.40) by hm47.locaweb.com.br with SMTP; 10 Dec 2004 18:52:58 -0000 Message-ID: <41B9D52E.50602@webmapit.com.br> Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2004 16:56:14 +0000 From: Eduardo Patto Kanegae User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (X11/20040913) X-Accept-Language: pt-br, pt MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Markus Neteler CC: translations@grass.itc.it, carreira@esalq.usp.br Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] RE: Portuguese translation References: <20041210123312.24307.qmail@hm47.locaweb.com.br> <20041210140611.GC31792@thuille.itc.it> In-Reply-To: <20041210140611.GC31792@thuille.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Markus, thanks for the prompt reply. I went to http://grass.itc.it/download.html and at GRASS 5.7 "green " frame, for translating documentation, should I download it only from http://grass.itc.it/grass57/source/snapshot/ ( CVS source code snapshopt ) , right? it contains docs am I right? best Eduardo Patto Kanegae http://www.webmapit.com.br Treinamento & Consultoria em UMN MapServer e FreeGIS Software ICQ: 303747254 MSN: eduardo_patto~at~hotmail.com +55(16)9994-2928 ***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** Markus Neteler escreveu: >Hi Eduardo, > >to translate the GRASS 5.7 documentation, please download the >source code (latest!! best from CVS to keep in sync) and to >take the files 'description.html'. The translated files >(then called 'description_pt_BR.html' for example) we should >insert into the CVS for future maintenance. > >Anything else would get outdated quickly or lost. > >In general all GRASS 5.7 modules (should) have such a file, >however, we are continuously updating them. Translators should >be aware of that and take care to keep the translated files >updated as well. > >Let me suggest to start with a few important pages. Then >we (me?) will have to extend the HTML/MAN page creation engine >to take care of integrating well the translated pages upon compile >time. > >Please note that the header/footer/parameters/flags section is >generated *automatically* while everything below the >DESCRIPTION section is maintained manually. So: no need to translate >the first part with parameters and flags. This will appear translated >automatically once the messages in the C code got translated (po files). >But this requires changes in the C code which are (slowly) done >by programmers/contributors. > >Summary: Yes, please translate the manual pages. To do so, the >module related 'description.html' files have to be translated. >Best is to use an ASCII editor to avoid that messy HTML code >get's inserted which won't be properly translated to MAN format >later. > >Thanks > > Markus > >On Fri, Dec 10, 2004 at 10:33:12AM -0200, Eduardo Patto Kanegae wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I checked up the link http://grass.itc.it/i18n.html but sound it talks only about translation of *.po files . I'm interested on translating GRASS documentation ( man pages? any others ?) and have GRASS 5.7 installed. >> >>Can I just translate *.html of man pages to a new "pt_BR" directory? or should I translate another source of files? >> >>Does the man pages that comes with 5.7 is ideal for that, or should I pick up another version? >> >> >>And how not to translate the same of anyone has already done? >> >>best regards, >> >>Eduardo Patto Kanegae >>http://www.webmapit.com.br >>ICQ: 303747254 >> >>Treinamento em UMN MapServer - http://www.webmapit.com.br/ptbr/?menuoption=mapserver >>Fórum MapServer Brasil - http://mapserver.cttmar.univali.br/forum >> >>***Fim da Mensagem / End of Message *** >> >> > > > From marchesini@unipg.it Wed Dec 15 02:42:27 2004 Received: from trabant.cianoz.org (host31-194-149-62.serverdedicati.aruba.it [62.149.194.31]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iBF1gR332567 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:42:27 +0100 Received: by trabant.cianoz.org (Postfix, from userid 1031) id BB3F4384017; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 01:42:26 +0100 (CET) Received: from 192.168.2.50 (host139-137.pool8248.interbusiness.it [82.48.137.139]) by trabant.cianoz.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A6A384016 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 01:42:25 +0100 (CET) From: ivan marchesini Reply-To: marchesini@unipg.it To: translations@grass.itc.it Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 02:42:49 +0100 Message-Id: <1103074969.6509.8.camel@geo-ivan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80 (http://www.clamav.net) Subject: [GRASS translations] first problem Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear Translators.... I'm a newbie to this work and I'm trying to start but after entering ./locale: ____________________________________________________________________ make pot ../include/Make/Module.make:4: ../include/Make/Platform.make: No such file or directory ../include/Make/Module.make:5: ../include/Make/Grass.make: No such file or directory ../include/Make/Module.make:34: warning: overriding commands for target `/' ../include/Make/Module.make:29: warning: ignoring old commands for target `/' make: *** No rule to make target `../include/Make/Grass.make'. Stop. _____________________________________________________________________ what does it means??? thank you for your help.... ivan -- ivan marchesini From neteler@itc.it Wed Dec 15 08:55:27 2004 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id iBF7tR303574 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:55:27 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. 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(8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id iBF6tKLF013485; Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:55:20 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 07:55:20 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: ivan marchesini Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] first problem Message-ID: <20041215065520.GC12696@thuille.itc.it> References: <1103074969.6509.8.camel@geo-ivan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1103074969.6509.8.camel@geo-ivan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 02:42:49AM +0100, ivan marchesini wrote: > Dear Translators.... > I'm a newbie to this work and I'm trying to start but after > entering ./locale: > > ____________________________________________________________________ > make pot > ../include/Make/Module.make:4: ../include/Make/Platform.make: No such > file or directory > ../include/Make/Module.make:5: ../include/Make/Grass.make: No such file > or directory > ../include/Make/Module.make:34: warning: overriding commands for target > `/' > ../include/Make/Module.make:29: warning: ignoring old commands for > target `/' > make: *** No rule to make target `../include/Make/Grass.make'. Stop. > _____________________________________________________________________ > > > what does it means??? It indicates that you didn't configure GRASS yet. First run some minimalistic configuration like ./configure \ --with-gdal=/usr/local/bin/gdal-config \ --without-postgres \ --without-mysql \ --without-odbc \ --without-motif \ --with-glw \ --with-nls \ --without-fftw \ --without-freetype Most important is --with-nls to acticate language support. I guess that you want to translate to Italian? A friend, Maurizio Napolitano here at IRST already started. Perhaps you can contact him and help to minimize the efforts. > thank you for your help.... Thanks to you Markus From rioapaporis@yahoo.com.br Tue Dec 28 15:30:09 2004 Received: from web90004.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90004.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.62]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id iBSEU6304922 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 15:30:07 +0100 Received: (qmail 91830 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Dec 2004 13:29:59 -0000 Message-ID: <20041228132959.91828.qmail@web90004.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.216.68.186] by web90004.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:29:59 ART Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:29:59 -0300 (ART) From: samuel cavalcante To: translations@grass.itc.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-416408826-1104240599=:89575" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [GRASS translations] translating description files Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --0-416408826-1104240599=:89575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit well, i still don´t know what i have to do with the translated description.html files...i have to send them to anyone? or just maintain them in my cvs directory for future modification in compilation mode? PS: it´s the first time i use cvs ... --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. --0-416408826-1104240599=:89575 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
well, i still don´t know what i have to do with the translated description.html files...i have to send them to anyone? or just maintain them in  my cvs directory for future modification in compilation mode?
PS: it´s the first time i use cvs ...
 

Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. --0-416408826-1104240599=:89575-- From rioapaporis@yahoo.com.br Tue Dec 28 19:48:39 2004 Received: from web90004.mail.scd.yahoo.com (web90004.mail.scd.yahoo.com [66.218.94.62]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id iBSImc307931 for ; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 19:48:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 64741 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Dec 2004 17:48:29 -0000 Message-ID: <20041228174829.64735.qmail@web90004.mail.scd.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.216.68.186] by web90004.mail.scd.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:48:29 ART Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2004 14:48:29 -0300 (ART) From: samuel cavalcante Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] translating description files To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20041228132959.91828.qmail@web90004.mail.scd.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1102956527-1104256109=:64445" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --0-1102956527-1104256109=:64445 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i´m sorry, these questions were based in the markus neteler - eduardo patto mails... (just to clarify my own mail...) samuel samuel cavalcante wrote: well, i still don´t know what i have to do with the translated description.html files...i have to send them to anyone? or just maintain them in my cvs directory for future modification in compilation mode? PS: it´s the first time i use cvs ... --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. --0-1102956527-1104256109=:64445 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
i´m sorry,
these questions were based in the markus neteler - eduardo patto mails...
(just to clarify my own mail...)
samuel

samuel cavalcante <rioapaporis@yahoo.com.br> wrote:
well, i still don´t know what i have to do with the translated description.html files...i have to send them to anyone? or just maintain them in  my cvs directory for future modification in compilation mode?
PS: it´s the first time i use cvs ...
 

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Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Internet rápida e grátis. Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. --0-1102956527-1104256109=:64445-- From neteler@itc.it Mon Jan 10 20:08:44 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j0AJ8i301753 for ; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 20:08:44 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0AI8d5G012598; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:08:39 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0AI8eKn031375; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:08:40 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0AI8etD031373; Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:08:40 +0100 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 19:08:40 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Miha Staut Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050110180840.GF23729@thuille.itc.it> References: <20041220141944.66540.qmail@web25401.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20041220141944.66540.qmail@web25401.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: Slovene translations - beginning Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Miha, (cc translations list) thanks for your files! They are in CVS now. Markus On Mon, Dec 20, 2004 at 02:19:44PM +0000, Miha Staut wrote: > Hi! > > At last I managed to produce some translation files. > They are really crude, but I guess it is better you > include them in the source tree than let them on my > computer lying. I hope I will soon find some more time > to improve on the language. I also did not understand > some of the messages what I think is decisive for a > good translation. > > Hope I helped a little bit. > > Miha Staut From neteler@itc.it Wed Jan 12 13:01:09 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j0CC19326267 for ; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 13:01:09 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0CB131V024983; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:01:03 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0CB1498010311; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:01:04 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0CB14Kr010309; Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:01:04 +0100 Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2005 12:01:04 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Maurizio Napolitano Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050112110104.GA10001@thuille.itc.it> References: <41E4F02D.6030303@itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <41E4F02D.6030303@itc.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: Traduzioni grass Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks, Maurizio, the italian po files are in CVS now. Markus On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 10:38:53AM +0100, Maurizio Napolitano wrote: > File grasslibs_it.po > Ha tanti fuzzy ... ma sono validi (basta fare una piccola correzione) > > grassmods_it.po > La parte tradotta e' ok, potrei andare avanti dopo pranzo (se vuoi) > > > Ciao > > -- > Maurizio Napolitano > ITC-irst > Povo(TN) - Italy > tel +39 0461 314341 > http://sra.itc.it/people/napolitano From neteler@itc.it Sat Jan 15 13:22:26 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j0FCMQ326147 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 13:22:26 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0FBMKIF017692 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:22:20 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0FBMM0T026987 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:22:22 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0FBMMtq026985 for translations@grass.itc.it; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:22:22 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 12:22:22 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050115112222.GA26969@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] New macros added Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear translators, I have added macros to the descriptions/parameters/flags of almost all raster commands. To update the local copy, update from CVS (this brings 6.0.cvs to you), then run cd locale make pot make update-po This will extract the new messages and merge them into the existing translations. Then you may review the files of your preferred language and submit either cvs diffs or the entire files to me. If possible, please create cvs diffs. Thanks Markus -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From neteler@itc.it Sat Jan 15 17:14:33 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j0FGEX327416 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:14:33 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0FFERWI016075 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:14:27 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j0FFETRB027834 for ; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:14:29 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j0FFETE9027832 for translations@grass.itc.it; Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:14:29 +0100 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2005 16:14:29 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050115151429.GA27816@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] How to speed up translating GRASS Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, in my previous post I forgot to mention than 'kbabel' provides an auto-translate tool. You can download additionally language files from http://i18n.kde.org/teams/ and/or load the existing grassmods_lang.po or grasslibs_lang.po files to quickly auto-translate the recently added messages. Then, of course, a manual check/fix round is necessary. But words which have been already translated in a previous run, should be auto-translated by kbabel. Would be nice to have more translations in 6.0.0beta2! Happy translating, Markus From rhkaras@wp.pl Fri Jan 28 17:00:19 2005 Received: from smtp.wp.pl (smtp.wp.pl [212.77.101.1]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j0SG0E307471 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2005 17:00:14 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 1537 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2005 16:00:07 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop) (rhkaras@[83.238.214.128]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with SMTP for ; 28 Jan 2005 16:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: <002101c50549$8b152f20$0200000a@ekoprojekt> From: "RHKARAS" To: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 15:56:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50551.E9CF6460" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1437 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO(Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1) AS2=NO(0.601508) AS3=NO AS4=NO Subject: [GRASS translations] Polish translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50551.E9CF6460 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I would like to know if there is Polish translation started already? J.Kowalczyk ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50551.E9CF6460 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
I would like to know if there is Polish = translation=20 started already?
 
J.Kowalczyk
------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C50551.E9CF6460-- From sholl@gmx.net Mon Jan 31 20:48:48 2005 Received: from linux.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j0VJml321814 for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:48:47 +0100 Received: by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 505) id A43341E01E; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:48:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (Ibfdd.i.pppool.de [85.73.191.221]) by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0E321D3FF for ; Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:48:43 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:48:34 +0100 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050131194834.6d6213cb@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0cvs23.2 (GTK+ 2.4.14; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://holl-net.dyndns.org/~steph/index.php X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --Signature_Mon__31_Jan_2005_19_48_34_+0100_sbLG=wCgLc/JqVo+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Translators, We have set up a table where a weekly status of translations is printed. You can have a look at it here: http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php#statistics Please keep on translating... and make your favourite language be on top of this list :-) Thanks for your contribution. Stephan --=20 Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de --Signature_Mon__31_Jan_2005_19_48_34_+0100_sbLG=wCgLc/JqVo+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/n2EEg9SKhGUagkRAkexAJ4qepImf6TLfX9QIyHArQjTiUPldgCgmuP8 rwAm82Ubv+sjsypqkcTm2F0= =gT0z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Mon__31_Jan_2005_19_48_34_+0100_sbLG=wCgLc/JqVo+-- From rioapaporis@yahoo.com.br Tue Feb 1 12:10:14 2005 Received: from web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.108]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id j11BAD303995 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:10:14 +0100 Received: (qmail 38510 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Feb 2005 10:10:07 -0000 Message-ID: <20050201101007.38508.qmail@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.213.124.111] by web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 07:10:07 ART Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:10:07 -0300 (ART) From: samuel cavalcante Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] brazilian portuguese translation To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20050131194834.6d6213cb@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: wel, i am trying to begin a (brazilian) portuguese translation but some dificulties: i tried to do what is writen in the README file in the /locale directory... cd /locale make pot but i got a lot of error messages: "../include/Make/Module.make:4: ../include/Make/Platform.make: No such file or di rectory ../include/Make/Module.make:5: ../include/Make/Grass.make: No such file or direc tory ../include/Make/Module.make:34: warning: overriding commands for target `/' ../include/Make/Module.make:29: warning: ignoring old commands for target `/' make: *** No rule to make target `../include/Make/Grass.make'. Stop. samuel@yanomami:~/t/grass-6.0.cvs_src_snapshot_2005_01_22/locale$ make pot creat e grass.pot ../include/Make/Module.make:4: ../include/Make/Platform.make: No such file or di rectory ../include/Make/Module.make:5: ../include/Make/Grass.make: No such file or direc tory ../include/Make/Module.make:34: warning: overriding commands for target `/' ../include/Make/Module.make:29: warning: ignoring old commands for target `/' make: *** No rule to make target `../include/Make/Grass.make'. Stop." well, what is wrong? (as you know (maybe) i am not an expert but just an - a little bit - advanced USER of computers) thanks anyway, i am translating the manual (quick) reference guide...it's more easy... samuel _______________________________________________________ Yahoo! Acesso Grátis - Instale o discador do Yahoo! agora. http://br.acesso.yahoo.com/ - Internet rápida e grátis From sholl@gmx.net Tue Feb 1 12:16:13 2005 Received: from linux.gdf-hannover.de (mail.gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j11BGD304029 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 12:16:13 +0100 Received: by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 505) id 5C93511796; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:16:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (I8c38.i.pppool.de [85.73.140.56]) by linux.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 587697137 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:16:10 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 11:16:10 +0100 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] brazilian portuguese translation Message-ID: <20050201111610.31828361@localhost> In-Reply-To: <20050201101007.38508.qmail@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20050131194834.6d6213cb@localhost> <20050201101007.38508.qmail@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.0.0cvs23.2 (GTK+ 2.4.14; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://holl-net.dyndns.org/~steph/index.php X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --Signature_Tue__1_Feb_2005_11_16_10_+0100_GR5t7==GeNzHnNW/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello samuel,=20 On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 07:10:07 -0300 (ART) samuel cavalcante wrote: > wel,=20 > i am trying to begin a (brazilian) portuguese > translation but some dificulties: > i tried to do what is writen in the README file in the > /locale directory... >=20 > cd /locale >=20 > make pot >=20 > but i got a lot of error messages: >=20 > "../include/Make/Module.make:4: > ../include/Make/Platform.make: No such file or di > rectory [...] It seems that you did not configure the source-code with the ./configure --with-nls=20 command. This may lead to your problem. Hope this helps Cheers Stephan --=20 Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de --Signature_Tue__1_Feb_2005_11_16_10_+0100_GR5t7==GeNzHnNW/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB/1bsEg9SKhGUagkRAj3XAJ4+1BZ6hgNiS+NBJijq1DELkWx0rwCfdEtP 2Xugj716zsyKFGXcciMshrw= =wx3i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Tue__1_Feb_2005_11_16_10_+0100_GR5t7==GeNzHnNW/-- From neteler@itc.it Tue Feb 1 15:14:24 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j11EEO306541 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 15:14:24 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j11DEIoQ023952 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:14:18 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j11DEIJI028791 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:14:18 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j11DEIhA028789 for translations@grass.itc.it; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:14:18 +0100 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 14:14:18 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050201131418.GA28772@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Simplifying translating GRASS Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, IMHO it's still too complicated to start a new translation or to continue an existing translation of GRASS. Suggestion: 1. I update all existing .po files to the current state (this requires that you send all work already done but not committed to me as soon as possible) 2. I add a link on the i18n web page to make these .po files downloadable. Like this newcomers can just grab such a file, open with kbabel/poedit and translate, then submit it to me/another developer. Sounds like a plan? So: please submit whatever is done to me. Markus From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Tue Feb 1 21:26:00 2005 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org (volubilis.easter-eggs.org [84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j11KPw309718 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:25:59 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E35E311A63A for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:25:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 16921-08 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:25:56 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [82.229.244.3]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEB711A62F for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 20:25:56 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Simplifying translating GRASS From: Emmanuel Saracco To: GRASS Translations List In-Reply-To: <20050201131418.GA28772@thuille.itc.it> References: <20050201131418.GA28772@thuille.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 20:25:56 +0100 Message-Id: <1107285956.3133.16.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le mardi 01 février 2005 à 14:14 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : > Hi, Hi Markus, [...] > 2. I add a link on the i18n web page to make these > .po files downloadable. Like this newcomers can > just grab such a file, open with kbabel/poedit and > translate, then submit it to me/another developer. This one sounds good for me :-) [...] Thanks, Bye From rioapaporis@yahoo.com.br Tue Feb 1 22:26:12 2005 Received: from web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.110]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id j11LQC309980 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:26:12 +0100 Received: (qmail 54321 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Feb 2005 20:26:05 -0000 Message-ID: <20050201202605.54319.qmail@web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [200.216.68.186] by web30407.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:26:05 ART Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 17:26:05 -0300 (ART) From: samuel cavalcante Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Simplifying translating GRASS To: Emmanuel Saracco , GRASS Translations List In-Reply-To: <1107285956.3133.16.camel@badiou> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1623408698-1107289565=:53419" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --0-1623408698-1107289565=:53419 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit hi markus, for me it is a very good new! i feel more stimulated to get involved in grass projects thanks samuel Emmanuel Saracco wrote: Le mardi 01 février 2005 à 14:14 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : > Hi, Hi Markus, [...] > 2. I add a link on the i18n web page to make these > .po files downloadable. Like this newcomers can > just grab such a file, open with kbabel/poedit and > translate, then submit it to me/another developer. This one sounds good for me :-) [...] Thanks, Bye _______________________________________________ translations mailing list translations@grass.itc.it http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations __________________________________________________ Converse com seus amigos em tempo real com o Yahoo! Messenger http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ --0-1623408698-1107289565=:53419 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
hi markus,
for me it is a very good new!
i feel more stimulated to get involved in grass projects
thanks
samuel


Emmanuel Saracco <esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org> wrote:
Le mardi 01 février 2005 à 14:14 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit :

> Hi,

Hi Markus,

[...]

> 2. I add a link on the i18n web page to make these
> .po files downloadable. Like this newcomers can
> just grab such a file, open with kbabel/poedit and
> translate, then submit it to me/another developer.

This one sounds good for me :-)

[...]

Thanks,

Bye


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http://br.download.yahoo.com/messenger/ --0-1623408698-1107289565=:53419-- From josemimanga2@yahoo.es Tue Feb 1 23:41:26 2005 Received: from web86906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web86906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.13.58]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id j11MfQ310943 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:41:26 +0100 Received: (qmail 42182 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Feb 2005 21:41:20 -0000 Message-ID: <20050201214120.42180.qmail@web86906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [85.137.161.240] by web86906.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 22:41:20 CET Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:41:20 +0100 (CET) From: jose miguel manzano To: translations@grass.itc.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [GRASS translations] =?iso-8859-1?q?Inicio=20de=20traducci=F3n=20de=20grass=20a=20espa=F1ol=20?= =?iso-8859-1?q?-=20grass=20spanish=20translation=20start=20already?= Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hola, quisiera empezar la traducción de grass a español, por lo pronto he tomado los archivos *.po del idioma frances y los voy traduciendo de nuevo. Necesito ayuda de la comunidad española para seguir con esto, ya que yo se manejar bien linux, para compilar y demás. Hi, i´m begining to transtale grass to the spanish language. I´m using *.po files from the French translation, and convert to spanish. Need help from the spanish community because i´m not use linux at good level, and don´t know compile and other things. Gracias a todos. Thank for all. Mi direccion: manzano_jm@yahoo.es My e-mail address: manzano_jm@yahoo.es ______________________________________________ Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡250 MB GRATIS! Nuevos servicios, más seguridad http://correo.yahoo.es From marta.benito@uam.es Wed Feb 2 11:25:17 2005 Received: from galia.ti.uam.es (galia.ti.uam.es [150.244.9.53]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j12APH316406 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 11:25:17 +0100 Received: from asterix.ti.uam.es (asterix.ti.uam.es [150.244.9.35]) by galia.ti.uam.es (8.9.3/8.9.3/UAM) with ESMTP id KAA25117; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:25:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from redes2.bio.uam.es (galia.ti.uam.es [150.244.9.53])by asterix.ti.uam.es (8.12.11/8.11.3/UAM) with SMTP id j129PBJk016034;Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:25:11 +0100 Message-Id: <200502020925.j129PBJk016034@asterix.ti.uam.es> To: jose miguel manzano , translations@grass.itc.it From: marta.benito@uam.es Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Inicio de traducción de gras Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 10:25:11 MET X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.26 X-imss-version: 2.019 X-imss-result: Passed X-imss-approveListMatch: *@*.uam.es MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Jose Miguel I would like also to participate with the spanish translation, so we can begin together ;) Marta > Hola, quisiera empezar la traducción de grass a > español, por lo pronto he tomado los archivos *.po del > idioma frances y los voy traduciendo de nuevo. > Necesito ayuda de la comunidad española para seguir > con esto, ya que yo se manejar bien linux, para > compilar y demás. > > Hi, i´m begining to transtale grass to the spanish > language. > I´m using *.po files from the French translation, and > convert to spanish. > Need help from the spanish community because i´m not > use linux at good level, and don´t know compile and > other things. > > Gracias a todos. > Thank for all. > > Mi direccion: manzano_jm@yahoo.es > My e-mail address: manzano_jm@yahoo.es > > > > ______________________________________________ > Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!: ¡250 MB GRATIS! > Nuevos servicios, más seguridad > http://correo.yahoo.es > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mensaje enviado mediante una herramienta Webmail integrada en *El Rincon*: ------------->>>>>>>> https://rincon.uam.es <<<<<<<<-------------- From neteler@itc.it Wed Feb 2 15:04:27 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j12E4R318389 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:04:27 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j12D4Mts030265; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:04:22 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j12D4McN023254; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:04:22 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j12D4MCd023252; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:04:22 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:04:22 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: marta.benito@uam.es Cc: jose miguel manzano , translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] =?iso-8859-1?Q?In?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?icio_de_traducci=F3n?= de gras Message-ID: <20050202130421.GC22685@thuille.itc.it> References: <200502020925.j129PBJk016034@asterix.ti.uam.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200502020925.j129PBJk016034@asterix.ti.uam.es> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 10:25:11AM +0100, marta.benito@uam.es wrote: > Hi, > > Jose Miguel I would like also to participate with the spanish translation, > so we can begin together ;) This is great! ... > > I´m using *.po files from the French translation, and > > convert to spanish. If you already downloaded the French *.po files, please update again as I have updated all *.po files in CVS (now, as announced yesterday). I have merged in numerous new messages. Current statistics: grasslibs_cs.po: 406 translated messages, 18 fuzzy translations, 5 untranslated messages. grasslibs_de.po: 425 translated messages, 1 fuzzy translation, 3 untranslated messages. grasslibs_fr.po: 406 translated messages, 22 fuzzy translations, 1 untranslated message. grasslibs_it.po: 56 translated messages, 352 fuzzy translations, 21 untranslated messages. grasslibs_ja.po: 0 translated messages, 71 fuzzy translations, 358 untranslated messages. grasslibs_ru.po: 0 translated messages, 364 fuzzy translations, 65 untranslated messages. grasslibs_sl.po: 398 translated messages, 4 fuzzy translations, 27 untranslated messages. grassmods_cs.po: 268 translated messages, 43 fuzzy translations, 570 untranslated messages. grassmods_de.po: 701 translated messages, 139 fuzzy translations, 41 untranslated messages. grassmods_fr.po: 167 translated messages, 37 fuzzy translations, 677 untranslated messages. grassmods_it.po: 153 translated messages, 24 fuzzy translations, 704 untranslated messages. grassmods_ja.po: 0 translated messages, 549 fuzzy translations, 332 untranslated messages. grassmods_ru.po: 0 translated messages, 74 fuzzy translations, 807 untranslated messages. grassmods_sl.po: 249 translated messages, 48 fuzzy translations, 584 untranslated messages. (note the new untranslated messages in grassmods_*). So, now it's the right moment to fetch a file and start. Please take care to fill out the metadata form (kbabel etc) to indicate the language in case that you rewrite an existing file. Tricks: * KBABEL: You may load .po files from other projects [see footnote 1] Then use TOOLS -> ROUGH TRANSLATION to auto-translate messages. * Pay attention to keep '%s', '\n' and other stuff in the translated messages! * Please use 'ISO-8859-1' or 'ISO-8859-15' for western languages. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8859 for details. Thanks for you participation! Markus [1] To load existing .po files (eg from older GRASS versions or KDE translator center, http://i18n.kde.org/teams/) into Kbabel, use KBABEL -> SETTINGS -> CONFIGURE DIRECTORY -> PO AUXILIARY From neteler@itc.it Wed Feb 2 15:17:03 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j12EH3318504 for ; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:17:03 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j12DGwdW002220; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:16:58 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j12DGwPZ023320; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:16:58 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j12DGvtv023318; Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:16:57 +0100 Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:16:57 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Emmanuel Saracco Cc: GRASS Translations List Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Simplifying translating GRASS Message-ID: <20050202131657.GD22685@thuille.itc.it> References: <20050201131418.GA28772@thuille.itc.it> <1107285956.3133.16.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1107285956.3133.16.camel@badiou> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 08:25:56PM +0100, Emmanuel Saracco wrote: > Le mardi 01 février 2005 à 14:14 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : > > > 2. I add a link on the i18n web page to make these > > .po files downloadable. Like this newcomers can > > just grab such a file, open with kbabel/poedit and > > translate, then submit it to me/another developer. > > This one sounds good for me :-) Fine! Done! http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php#statistics "Download current .po files from CVS (useful if you want to partecipate without compiling GRASS). Please announce your efforts on the 'GRASS translations' mailing list (see above) to avoid that work is doubled. To start a new language, you can simply rewrite an existing file. Take care to rename it properly and to update the language specific metadata. " Hope this explains it well enough (otherwise please suggest). Markus From wlx@mygis.org Thu Feb 3 06:45:33 2005 Received: from mail.mygis.org (503.mygis.org [210.77.68.237]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j135jV330791 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 06:45:32 +0100 Message-Id: <200502030545.j135jV330791@grass.itc.it> Received: from Arzhu ([210.77.68.252]) by mail.mygis.org (mail.mygis.org) (MDaemon.PRO.v7.2.0.R) with ESMTP id md50000006356.msg for ; Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:45:20 +0800 From: "wlx" To: Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 12:44:58 +0800 Organization: mygis.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 Thread-Index: AcUJqx19YJhfDvevSPylxm5ITq+aqQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 X-Spam-Processed: mail.mygis.org, Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:45:20 +0800 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Lookup-Warning: MAIL lookup on wlx@mygis.org does not match 210.77.68.252 X-MDRemoteIP: 210.77.68.252 X-Return-Path: wlx@mygis.org X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: translations@grass.itc.it X-MDAV-Processed: mail.mygis.org, Thu, 03 Feb 2005 12:45:22 +0800 Subject: [GRASS translations] Simply Chinese translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi List, I want to translate grass to simply chinese which code is gb2312 or utf-8. And are there somebody that are doing it? How can I start this translation and where are the document to do it? Best wish, Yours sincerely, Liangxu Wang From neteler@itc.it Thu Feb 3 15:07:25 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j13E7P304451 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:07:25 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j13D7Kep001021; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:07:20 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j13D7KJ6018899; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:07:20 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j13D7KB1018897; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:07:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:07:20 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: jose miguel manzano Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050203130720.GT28476@thuille.itc.it> References: <20050203124116.29937.qmail@web86907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20050203124116.29937.qmail@web86907.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: grass into spanish Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: (cc translations list) On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 01:41:16PM +0100, jose miguel manzano wrote: > Hi Markus, i´m already starting to translate grass > into spanish, great! > now we are two person and i, but i don´t > know how can upload the po files into spanish at the > web page. Yes, you cannot because it requires CVS write access. But I can and so it is in CVS now. Please note that it is in the *software* CVS of GRASS source code, not in the web space. However, it is also accessible through the web. Just to avoid confusion. > Send you the files for you upload now, and said me how > this make it. I have done it for you and will do it also in the future. > Sorry, but my english is very bad. > Thank you for all Markus. Thanks to you for your initiative. IMPORTANT: To proceed, please fetch the files from web as I extended the files with new messages which weren't yet present in your files. http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass51/locale/po/ -> grasslibs_es.po -> grassmods_es.po The web statistics will be updated next saturday automagically. Best markus From neteler@itc.it Thu Feb 3 16:44:28 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j13FiS305122 for ; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 16:44:28 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j13EiMKl009262; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:44:22 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j13EiMlX019469; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:44:22 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j13EiKVQ019467; Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:44:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 15:44:20 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: wlx Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Simply Chinese translation Message-ID: <20050203144420.GE19395@thuille.itc.it> References: <200502030545.j135jV330791@grass.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200502030545.j135jV330791@grass.itc.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 12:44:58PM +0800, wlx wrote: > Hi List, > I want to translate grass to simply chinese which code is gb2312 or > utf-8. And are there somebody that are doing it? Currently we are not aware of anyone translating GRASS into chinese. > How can I start this translation and where are the document to do it? You may just pick existing files of another language and rewrite to Chinese. 'kbabel' for example supports also asian encodings. Be sure to set the encoding and language first in the 'kbabel' settings *after* having loaded an existing .po file. Just pick the grasslibs_XX.po and grassmods_XX.po files from here http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass51/locale/po/ Everybody in the list: Please note that regular (even small) submissions are better than waiting lots of time. This reduces extra workload of re-syncronizing the files with the actual state of GRASS. Thanks in advance. Markus -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From marchesini@unipg.it Fri Feb 4 16:22:13 2005 Received: from trabant.cianoz.org (host31-194-149-62.serverdedicati.aruba.it [62.149.194.31]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j14FMD316187 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 16:22:13 +0100 Received: by trabant.cianoz.org (Postfix, from userid 1031) id 2BD9A384020; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:22:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from geo-ivan (geologia5.agora.ing.unipg.it [141.250.41.212]) by trabant.cianoz.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D39384020 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 15:22:19 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Simplifying translating GRASS From: ivan marchesini Reply-To: marchesini@unipg.it To: GRASS Translations List In-Reply-To: <20050202131657.GD22685@thuille.itc.it> References: <20050201131418.GA28772@thuille.itc.it> <1107285956.3133.16.camel@badiou> <20050202131657.GD22685@thuille.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 16:10:37 +0100 Message-Id: <1107529837.1980.15.camel@geo-ivan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80 (http://www.clamav.net) Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear all... I have just started to do the italian translation... but I will be not so rapid.... I hope to finish as soon as I can... bye ivan Il giorno mer, 02-02-2005 alle 14:16 +0100, Markus Neteler ha scritto: > On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 08:25:56PM +0100, Emmanuel Saracco wrote: > > Le mardi 01 février 2005 à 14:14 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : > > > > > 2. I add a link on the i18n web page to make these > > > .po files downloadable. Like this newcomers can > > > just grab such a file, open with kbabel/poedit and > > > translate, then submit it to me/another developer. > > > > This one sounds good for me :-) > > Fine! Done! > > http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php#statistics > > "Download current .po files from CVS (useful if you want to partecipate > without compiling GRASS). Please announce your efforts on the 'GRASS > translations' mailing list (see above) to avoid that work is > doubled. To start a new language, you can simply rewrite an existing > file. Take care to rename it properly and to update the language > specific metadata. > " > > Hope this explains it well enough (otherwise please suggest). > > Markus > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations -- ivan marchesini From marchesini@unipg.it Sun Feb 6 16:14:46 2005 Received: from trabant.cianoz.org (host31-194-149-62.serverdedicati.aruba.it [62.149.194.31]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j16FEk317005 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 16:14:46 +0100 Received: by trabant.cianoz.org (Postfix, from userid 1031) id 3471D384047; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:14:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.203] (host31-69.pool8249.interbusiness.it [82.49.69.31]) by trabant.cianoz.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E42384031; Sun, 6 Feb 2005 15:14:53 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Simplifying translating GRASS From: ivan marchesini Reply-To: marchesini@unipg.it To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it, napo@itc.it Cc: napo@itc.it In-Reply-To: <20050205163337.GC4536@thuille.itc.it> References: <20050201131418.GA28772@thuille.itc.it> <1107285956.3133.16.camel@badiou> <20050202131657.GD22685@thuille.itc.it> <1107529837.1980.15.camel@geo-ivan> <20050204152343.GE29410@thuille.itc.it> <1107613616.1937.12.camel@geo-ivan> <20050205163337.GC4536@thuille.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15 Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2005 16:03:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1107702190.1955.5.camel@geo-ivan> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.80 (http://www.clamav.net) Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Ok markus... ormai io ho iniziato le traduzioni e sono comunque più avanti di quanto già fatto con il fuzzy... io per ora lavoro sul grasslibs... e tento di finirlo... se napo vuole potrebbe lavorare su mods??? che ne dite??? ciao ivan Il giorno sab, 05-02-2005 alle 17:33 +0100, Markus Neteler ha scritto: > On Sat, Feb 05, 2005 at 03:26:56PM +0100, ivan marchesini wrote: > > Ciao Markus... > > ho fatto il download dei sorgenti di GRASS6.0 perchè con napo eravamo > > rimasti che tu avresti creato il pot e lo avresti messo sul sorgente... > > non va più bene..?? > > Dipende: Deve essere il codice di due giorni fa. > > Meglio scaricare i file da > > http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php#statistics > -> download > > per no perdere messaggi. > > ciao > > > ciao > > > > > > Il giorno ven, 04-02-2005 alle 16:23 +0100, Markus Neteler ha scritto: > > > Ciao Ivan, > > > > > > ti hai preso gli file esistenti, vero? Perche' Napo ha gia' > > > tradotto qualcosa. > > > > > > ciao > > > > > > Markus > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 04:10:37PM +0100, ivan marchesini wrote: > > > > Dear all... > > > > I have just started to do the italian translation... but I will be not > > > > so rapid.... > > > > I hope to finish as soon as I can... > > > > bye > > > > > > > > > > > > ivan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Il giorno mer, 02-02-2005 alle 14:16 +0100, Markus Neteler ha scritto: > > > > > On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 08:25:56PM +0100, Emmanuel Saracco wrote: > > > > > > Le mardi 01 février 2005 à 14:14 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. I add a link on the i18n web page to make these > > > > > > > .po files downloadable. Like this newcomers can > > > > > > > just grab such a file, open with kbabel/poedit and > > > > > > > translate, then submit it to me/another developer. > > > > > > > > > > > > This one sounds good for me :-) > > > > > > > > > > Fine! Done! > > > > > > > > > > http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php#statistics > > > > > > > > > > "Download current .po files from CVS (useful if you want to partecipate > > > > > without compiling GRASS). Please announce your efforts on the 'GRASS > > > > > translations' mailing list (see above) to avoid that work is > > > > > doubled. To start a new language, you can simply rewrite an existing > > > > > file. Take care to rename it properly and to update the language > > > > > specific metadata. > > > > > " > > > > > > > > > > Hope this explains it well enough (otherwise please suggest). > > > > > > > > > > Markus > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > translations mailing list > > > > > translations@grass.itc.it > > > > > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > > > > -- > > > > ivan marchesini > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > translations mailing list > > > > translations@grass.itc.it > > > > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > > > > > -- > > ivan marchesini > > > > > -- ivan marchesini From lizquierdo@rocketmail.com Sat Feb 12 21:58:37 2005 Received: from web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.138]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id j1CKwbd22376 for ; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 21:58:37 +0100 Received: (qmail 27161 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Feb 2005 20:58:30 -0000 Message-ID: <20050212205830.27159.qmail@web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.68.214.37] by web30705.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:58:30 PST Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:58:30 -0800 (PST) From: luis guillermo izquierdo To: translations@grass.itc.it, lizquierdo@rocketmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [GRASS translations] Translation into Spanish - Traduccion al espanol Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hola: Soy Luis Izquierdo, quiero colaborar en la traduccion de GRASS al espanol, quiesiera saber si alguien esta administrando la traduccion, podria alguien por favor proporcionarme una guia de como comenzar, que porciones de codigo bajar, requisitos, etc. Gracias Luis Hi: I'm Luis Izquierdo, I would like to participate in the GRASS translation into Spanish. I am wondering if someone is managing the transalation, would you please provide me some guidelines to start, ie: code lines that I should download, requirements, compilers, etc. Thanks in advance. Luis __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From lizquierdo@rocketmail.com Mon Feb 14 20:11:17 2005 Received: from web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.139]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id j1EJBGd19630 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:11:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 59625 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2005 19:11:10 -0000 Message-ID: <20050214191110.59623.qmail@web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [142.104.250.115] by web30706.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:11:10 PST Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:11:10 -0800 (PST) From: luis guillermo izquierdo To: translations@grass.itc.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [GRASS translations] Organizando la traduccion al espanol Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Gracias Pablo y Jose Miguel por su pronta respuesta, estoy muy intersado en echar andar esta traduccion, tengo esta semana libre, y la pienso dedicar completamente al proyecto, y los proximos 2 meses tambien pienso dedicarselo de acuerdo a mis posibilidades. Tengo que chequear la estructura de los scripts que podriamos traducir, y priorizar los que convengamos, quizas podriamos hacer una lluvia de ideas para priorizar los modulos mas importantes para comenzar, y despues repartirnos los scripts de acuerdo a nuestra conveniencia. Ideas son bienvenidas, ademas la definicion de otras herramientas para hacer desarrollo colaborativo, tengo mucha experiencia en esto, en mi laboratorio realizamos mucha investigacion en Global Software Development. Que opinan si tiramos algunas ideas al foro acerca de como organizarnos, y como comenzar a echar el proyecto. SAludos Luis Izquierdo SEGAL Labs University of Victoria Victoria, BC Canada http://segal.cs.uvic.ca/SEGALProfileLuis.html __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page – Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com From alonsarp@um.es Tue Feb 15 12:36:48 2005 Received: from smtp.um.es (smtp.um.es [155.54.212.103]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1FBamd26772 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:36:48 +0100 Received: from smtp.um.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 408AA8DC for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:36:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from correo.um.es (zape.um.es [155.54.212.102]) by smtp.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20DD5248 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:36:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from um.es (fas2-portatil.bio.um.es [155.54.4.210]) by correo.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F995CCA for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:36:41 +0100 (MET) From: Francisco Alonso Reply-To: alonsarp@um.es To: translations@grass.itc.it Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:56:24 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200502151156.24629.alonsarp@um.es> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j1FBamd26772 Subject: [GRASS translations] Spanish translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi: I have some man pages already translated in my web site (www.um.es/~geograf/sigmur). It is mainly to be used by my GIS students. I would be also intersted in being part of the translation effort. Paco Francisco Alonso Sarría Departamento de Geografía (Area de Geografía Física) Universidad de Murcia. Campus La Merced E-30001 Murcia Telfn: +34 968364357 From alonsarp@um.es Tue Feb 15 12:36:48 2005 Received: from smtp.um.es (smtp.um.es [155.54.212.103]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1FBamd26773 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:36:48 +0100 Received: from smtp.um.es (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C844C78 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:36:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from correo.um.es (zape.um.es [155.54.212.102]) by smtp.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 499D7AFE for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:36:42 +0100 (CET) Received: from um.es (fas2-portatil.bio.um.es [155.54.4.210]) by correo.um.es (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA9A5CC5 for ; Tue, 15 Feb 2005 12:36:42 +0100 (MET) From: Francisco Alonso Reply-To: alonsarp@um.es To: translations@grass.itc.it Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 11:57:33 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Message-Id: <200502151157.33351.alonsarp@um.es> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j1FBamd26773 Subject: [GRASS translations] Spanish translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi: I have some man pages already translated in my web site (www.um.es/~geograf/sigmur). It is mainly to be used by my GIS students. I would be also intersted in being part of the translation effort. Paco Francisco Alonso Sarría Departamento de Geografía (Area de Geografía Física) Universidad de Murcia. Campus La Merced E-30001 Murcia Telfn: +34 968364357 From lizquierdo@rocketmail.com Thu Feb 17 00:01:07 2005 Received: from web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.200.143]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id j1GN16d11185 for ; Thu, 17 Feb 2005 00:01:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 59767 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Feb 2005 23:01:00 -0000 Message-ID: <20050216230100.59765.qmail@web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [142.104.250.115] by web30710.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:01:00 PST Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 15:01:00 -0800 (PST) From: luis guillermo izquierdo To: translations@grass.itc.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [GRASS translations] Traducción en progreso Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hola Jose Miguel: He terminado de traduccir el grasslibs_es. Por favor informenme cuales son los siguientes pasos para fusionar el archivo adjunto con los scripts de GRASS, quizas podamos crear una description del proceso para publicarla en la lista. Gracias Luis Izquierdo SEGAL Labs University of Victoria Victoria, BC Canada __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com From christian.grass@gmail.com Fri Feb 18 18:17:40 2005 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.196]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1IHHed29408 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 18:17:40 +0100 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so727753rne for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:17:38 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=H0NnP4+imFUCNpYtXSqvxkZeZUNHZQ8ortkLoLpaDqsv7ZJOPPnd2Fz8xK+q/8eFeUl/qb3Rfw/FSwbPHY5+nU6RGQFg6W3YLB1N0JDraBhfSZhU7nELS04ayZMdlApBUkDzT+YAN/T9peJUYfYuLJItx7MmgPQ+fYiXxoiKauI= Received: by 10.38.67.27 with SMTP id p27mr139504rna; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:17:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.149.75 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Feb 2005 09:17:37 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <881854b2050218091736aa219a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 14:17:37 -0300 From: Christian Ferreira Reply-To: Christian Ferreira To: translations@grass.itc.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [GRASS translations] Translations to Brazilian portuguese... Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, Well, is there anybody working in translations do Brazilian portuguese (pt_BR)? I'm preparing a short course about GRASS and had already translated (to pt_BR) all the summary from GRASS 6.0 commands... There is already a tutorial (based on GRASS 6.0 and pt_BR) under the way... Cheers, Christian S. Ferreira From dcalvelo@minag.gob.pe Wed Feb 23 16:54:44 2005 Received: from agrario.minag.gob.pe (mail.minag.gob.pe [200.48.142.5]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1NFsgd29733 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:54:43 +0100 Received: from minag.gob.pe (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by agrario.minag.gob.pe (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1NFoJ83001859 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:50:19 -0500 From: "Daniel Calvelo Aros" To: translations@grass.itc.it Reply-To: daniel.calvelo@minag.gob.pe Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:50:19 -0500 Message-Id: <20050223154844.M54761@minag.gob.pe> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 200.106.64.230 (dcalvelo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: [GRASS translations] [fr] takers? Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all. Is there anybody working on the french translation? Is it needed to get the spanish one going? I'm starting doing it (fr), FYI. Daniel. -- Daniel Calvelo Aros From eve.red@magic.fr Wed Feb 23 17:00:36 2005 Received: from teheran.magic.fr (teheran.magic.fr [62.210.158.46]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1NG0Zd29804 for ; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:00:35 +0100 Received: from rio.magic.fr (rio.magic.fr [195.154.193.37]) by teheran.magic.fr (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1NG0Wh17786; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:00:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from MoL (www@localhost) by rio.magic.fr (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id j1NG0Yl19205; Wed, 23 Feb 2005 17:00:34 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200502231600.j1NG0Yl19205@rio.magic.fr> X-Authentication-Warning: rio.magic.fr: www owned process doing -bs To: daniel.calvelo@minag.gob.pe, translations@grass.itc.it From: Eve Rousseau Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] [fr] takers? Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:00:34 GMT X-Posting-IP: 137.194.133.17 X-Mailer: Magic OnLine / WebMail V9.32-18 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Daniel, I think Emmanuel Sarraco has done it all! Have you checked recently? And yes, spanish translators are working both on the english and french versions to get the spanish one... Cheers, Eve > Hi all. Is there anybody working on the french translation? Is it needed to > get the spanish one going? > > I'm starting doing it (fr), FYI. > > Daniel. > > -- Daniel Calvelo Aros > -------------------------------- Interface WebMail / Magic OnLine http://www.magic.fr From dcalvelo@minag.gob.pe Thu Feb 24 06:30:55 2005 Received: from agrario.minag.gob.pe (mail.minag.gob.pe [200.48.142.5]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1O5Urd03810 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 06:30:53 +0100 Received: from minag.gob.pe (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by agrario.minag.gob.pe (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1O5QTai016058 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:26:29 -0500 From: "Daniel Calvelo Aros" To: translations@grass.itc.it Reply-To: daniel.calvelo@minag.gob.pe Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 00:26:29 -0500 Message-Id: <20050224052336.M80615@minag.gob.pe> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 200.106.28.14 (dcalvelo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=OPENWEBMAIL_ATT_0.768662160336138" Subject: [GRASS translations] grasslibs_fr Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=OPENWEBMAIL_ATT_0.768662160336138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi. Attached is grasslibs_fr.po as a file and as a diff -u from today's po tarball. It's just one new and 22 fuzzy translations lifted. I'm on grassmods now. 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Not yet gettexted? Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all. I did a quick find'n'grep over the beta2 sources, and it looks like there are still several strings not marked for translation. I guess it's not an issue that should be cleaned up for 6.0 final, but I think it ought to be included in the TODO. Maybe also scheduled for some point release. It might also be a good opportunity to write the paragraph on fprintf vs. G_message in SUBMITTING. FYI, a "find . -name '*.c' -exec grep -HE 'G_(message|warning|fatal_error)' \{\} \; | grep -v '_("' | cut -d: -f1 | sort |uniq | wc" gives 595 files with unmarked G_* calls; the equivalent count for fprintf\(std(out|err) gives 332 files with strings not marked for translation. Daniel. -- Daniel Calvelo Aros From blazek@itc.it Thu Feb 24 09:27:18 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1O8RId05172 for ; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:27:18 +0100 Received: from itc.it (janacek [10.40.0.140]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1O8RCVi003361; Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:27:13 +0100 Message-ID: <421D8FDD.5070607@itc.it> Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2005 09:27:09 +0100 From: Radim Blazek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: daniel.calvelo@minag.gob.pe CC: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] grasslibs_fr References: <20050224052336.M80615@minag.gob.pe> In-Reply-To: <20050224052336.M80615@minag.gob.pe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Daniel Calvelo Aros wrote: > Hi. > > Attached is grasslibs_fr.po as a file and as a diff -u from today's po > tarball. It's just one new and 22 fuzzy translations lifted. I'm on grassmods now. > > Daniel > > -- Daniel Calvelo Aros > I have put it into the CVS. Radim From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Fri Feb 25 05:48:13 2005 Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org (volubilis.easter-eggs.org [84.207.4.2]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1P4mDd13695 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:48:13 +0100 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D69111A700 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:48:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from volubilis.easter-eggs.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (volubilis [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 14971-01 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:48:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (unknown [82.229.244.3]) by volubilis.easter-eggs.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E69311A59F for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:48:11 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] [fr] takers? From: Emmanuel Saracco To: GRASS Translations List In-Reply-To: <20050223154844.M54761@minag.gob.pe> References: <20050223154844.M54761@minag.gob.pe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 05:48:12 +0100 Message-Id: <1109306892.7077.18.camel@badiou> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le mercredi 23 février 2005 à 10:50 -0500, Daniel Calvelo Aros a écrit : Hi Daniel, > Hi all. Is there anybody working on the french translation? Is it needed to > get the spanish one going? I am working on this translation. Unfortunatly no much time those last weeks :-( > I'm starting doing it (fr), FYI. Great :-) Thanks, bye From neteler@itc.it Mon Feb 28 15:22:07 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1SEM7d28969; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:22:07 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1SEM1Uf003932; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:22:01 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1SEM1Cm027123; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:22:01 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j1SEM0Z8027121; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:22:00 +0100 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:22:00 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: daniel.calvelo@minag.gob.pe Cc: translations@grass.itc.it, grass5 developers list Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Not yet gettexted? Message-ID: <20050228142200.GP5793@thuille.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: daniel.calvelo@minag.gob.pe, translations@grass.itc.it, grass5 developers list References: <20050224052642.M14494@minag.gob.pe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050224052642.M14494@minag.gob.pe> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: (cc grass5) On Thu, Feb 24, 2005 at 12:37:57AM -0500, Daniel Calvelo Aros wrote: > Hi all. > > I did a quick find'n'grep over the beta2 sources, and it looks like there are > still several strings not marked for translation. I guess it's not an issue > that should be cleaned up for 6.0 final Hi Daniel, this is a known problem (see locale/README and the i18n web page). > , but I think it ought to be included > in the TODO. Maybe also scheduled for some point release. Basically it's a lot of work, help is more than welcome. > It might also be a > good opportunity to write the paragraph on fprintf vs. G_message in SUBMITTING. Good point. Someone knowing better than me may give us a hint when to use G_message(). > FYI, a "find . -name '*.c' -exec grep -HE 'G_(message|warning|fatal_error)' > \{\} \; | grep -v '_("' | cut -d: -f1 | sort |uniq | wc" gives 595 files with > unmarked G_* calls; the equivalent count for fprintf\(std(out|err) gives 332 > files with strings not marked for translation. > > Daniel. > > -- Daniel Calvelo Aros Markus From neteler@itc.it Mon Feb 28 22:21:17 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j1SLLHd31980; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:21:17 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1SLLCqe007622; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:21:12 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j1SLLCb7029135; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:21:12 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j1SLLB6A029133; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:21:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:21:11 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Daniel Calvelo Cc: translations@grass.itc.it, grass5 developers list , Radim Blazek Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Not yet gettexted? Message-ID: <20050228212111.GC29097@thuille.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: Daniel Calvelo , translations@grass.itc.it, grass5 developers list , Radim Blazek References: <20050224052642.M14494@minag.gob.pe> <20050228142200.GP5793@thuille.itc.it> <20050228172840.M59178@minag.gob.pe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050228172840.M59178@minag.gob.pe> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Feb 28, 2005 at 12:37:52PM -0500, Daniel Calvelo wrote: > Markus Neteler on 28 Feb 2005 15:22:00 +0100 wrote: > > > > Basically it's a lot of work, help is more than welcome. > > Ok. Have you got a rough idea of the priorities for translation? I reckon d.m, > g.*, r.* are more used than the rest of commands, but people with more grass > experience might have other ideas. In a long morning I have indicated all r.* descriptions (> 1000). All d.*, g.* etc are missing, many v.* as well. Just go ahead! > [me] > > It might also be a good opportunity to write the paragraph on fprintf vs. > > G_message in SUBMITTING. > > [Markus] > > Good point. > > Someone knowing better than me may give us a hint when to use > > G_message(). > > locale/README states that both fprintf(stderr...) and fprintf(stdout...) > should be changed to G_message. I find that quite surprising: it seems to > erase the distinction between "normal" output and "warning-like" output. > Shouldn't fprintf(stderr...) become G_warning()? You are right, it's badly explained. Radim: what's the policy for G_message? Markus From blazek@itc.it Tue Mar 1 09:31:42 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j218Vgd11193; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:31:42 +0100 Received: from itc.it (janacek [10.40.0.140]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j218VZ4c016625; Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:31:36 +0100 Message-ID: <42242864.3090700@itc.it> Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:31:32 +0100 From: Radim Blazek User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040113 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Markus Neteler CC: Daniel Calvelo , translations@grass.itc.it, grass5 developers list Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Not yet gettexted? References: <20050224052642.M14494@minag.gob.pe> <20050228142200.GP5793@thuille.itc.it> <20050228172840.M59178@minag.gob.pe> <20050228212111.GC29097@thuille.itc.it> In-Reply-To: <20050228212111.GC29097@thuille.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Markus Neteler wrote: >>>Good point. >>>Someone knowing better than me may give us a hint when to use >>>G_message(). >> >>locale/README states that both fprintf(stderr...) and fprintf(stdout...) >>should be changed to G_message. I find that quite surprising: it seems to >>erase the distinction between "normal" output and "warning-like" output. >>Shouldn't fprintf(stderr...) become G_warning()? > > You are right, it's badly explained. > > Radim: what's the policy for G_message? I think that G_message should be used for messages - informations about the process for user while fprintf(stdout...) for data output. G_message output is not expected to be send to pipe or file. fprintf(stdout...) output is usually send to pipe or file. It was discussed more times in the list, search the list. Radim From wlx@mygis.org Tue Mar 8 14:59:18 2005 Received: from mail.mygis.org ([210.77.68.237]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j28DxGd12826 for ; Tue, 8 Mar 2005 14:59:17 +0100 Message-Id: <200503081359.j28DxGd12826@grass.itc.it> Received: from Arzhu ([210.77.68.214]) by mail.mygis.org (mail.mygis.org) (MDaemon.PRO.v7.2.0.R) with ESMTP id md50000008777.msg for ; Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:59:08 +0800 From: "wlx" To: "'Markus Neteler'" Cc: Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 21:58:55 +0800 Organization: mygis.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.6353 In-Reply-To: <20050203144420.GE19395@thuille.itc.it> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 Thread-Index: AcUJ/twpa1phfj47TWawRprANbxmMgZ5Pxhg X-Spam-Processed: mail.mygis.org, Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:59:08 +0800 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-Lookup-Warning: MAIL lookup on wlx@mygis.org does not match 210.77.68.214 X-MDRemoteIP: 210.77.68.214 X-Return-Path: wlx@mygis.org X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: translations@grass.itc.it X-MDAV-Processed: mail.mygis.org, Tue, 08 Mar 2005 21:59:12 +0800 Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: Simply Chinese translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Markus, Sorry for a later reponse. We prepaire to start the simple chinese translation now. Firstly, I want to download the latest po files, and go to http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass6/locale/po/, but I don't know which file is the English version, so where can I get the latest English po files? Secondly, I am planing use poEdit to do the translation as some of us use the windows operating system, are there any problems with this solution? Or any other more efficiency solution? Best wish, Yours sincerely, Liangxu Wang > > On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 12:44:58PM +0800, wlx wrote: > > Hi List, > > I want to translate grass to simply chinese which code > is gb2312 > > or utf-8. And are there somebody that are doing it? > > Currently we are not aware of anyone translating GRASS into chinese. > > > How can I start this translation and where are the > document to do it? > > You may just pick existing files of another language and > rewrite to Chinese. 'kbabel' for example supports also asian > encodings. > Be sure to set the encoding and language first in the 'kbabel' > settings *after* having loaded an existing .po file. > > Just pick the grasslibs_XX.po and grassmods_XX.po files from here > > http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass51/locale/po/ > > > Everybody in the list: > Please note that regular (even small) submissions are better > than waiting lots of time. This reduces extra workload of > re-syncronizing the files with the actual state of GRASS. > > Thanks in advance. > > Markus > > -- > Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it > ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica > MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis > Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy > > From neteler@itc.it Wed Mar 9 14:30:52 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j29DUqd23364 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 14:30:52 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j29DUkmG007882 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 14:30:46 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j29DUkL9014740 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 14:30:46 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j29DUkcU014738 for translations@grass.itc.it; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 14:30:46 +0100 Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 14:30:46 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050309133046.GA14721@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: simple chinese translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Liangxu Wang, On Tue, Mar 08, 2005 at 09:58:55PM +0800, wlx wrote: > > Hi Markus, > Sorry for a later reponse. > We prepaire to start the simple chinese translation now. Firstly, I > want to download the latest po files, and go to > http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass6/locale/po/, but I don't know > which file is the English version, so where can I get the latest English po > files? You can simply download another language (for example the two files in German) and rewrite the translation. These files contain the english messages as well, you would "simply" replace the German text with chinese. Please take care to - set up the language in the settings - set up the encoding (UTF8?) properly > Secondly, I am planing use poEdit to do the translation as some of us > use the windows operating system, are there any problems with this solution? > Or any other more efficiency solution? This should be fine. An efficient solution might be to do one step in Linux with kbabel before asking your colleages to help with poEdit (which I don't know): You can download existing .po files from KDE translator center, http://i18n.kde.org/teams/) for your language and load them into Kbabel: KBABEL -> SETTINGS -> CONFIGURE DIRECTORY -> PO AUXILIARY Then there is a "rough translation" feature which will auto-translate as many words as possible. Maybe it doesn't work well for your language, but for Italian it was a nice trick. Then save the file and continue with poedit. Best regards Markus Neteler > > On Thu, Feb 03, 2005 at 12:44:58PM +0800, wlx wrote: > > > Hi List, > > > I want to translate grass to simply chinese which code > > is gb2312 > > > or utf-8. And are there somebody that are doing it? > > > > Currently we are not aware of anyone translating GRASS into chinese. > > > > > How can I start this translation and where are the > > document to do it? > > > > You may just pick existing files of another language and > > rewrite to Chinese. 'kbabel' for example supports also asian > > encodings. > > Be sure to set the encoding and language first in the 'kbabel' > > settings *after* having loaded an existing .po file. > > > > Just pick the grasslibs_XX.po and grassmods_XX.po files from here > > > > http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass51/locale/po/ > > > > > > Everybody in the list: > > Please note that regular (even small) submissions are better > > than waiting lots of time. This reduces extra workload of > > re-syncronizing the files with the actual state of GRASS. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Markus From neteler@itc.it Tue Mar 15 09:43:51 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j2F8hpd04461 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:43:51 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2F8hkCk021554; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:43:46 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2F8hkvk021481; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:43:46 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2F8hkLg021478; Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:43:46 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 09:43:46 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: nilarcs Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: simple chinese translation Message-ID: <20050315084346.GA21463@thuille.itc.it> References: <20050309133046.GA14721@thuille.itc.it> <776a7163050314232725834563@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <776a7163050314232725834563@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: (cc translation ML) On Tue, Mar 15, 2005 at 03:27:39PM +0800, nilarcs wrote: > Hi Markus, > > I have translated some messages into Simplified Chinese with UTF-8. > And I have contacted with Liangxu Wang. I knew that he has not started > , so I told him what I translated. Now I want to submit the po file, > but I don't know where I should send the file to. You can send the file to me for CVS upload. > Today I have tested the po file, it worked fine. But the font in the > GUI looks ugly , I want to change the font, but I don't know how to > do. Can you give me some suggestion? Do you use "mlterm"? Best regards Markus From nilarcs@gmail.com Fri Mar 18 02:56:56 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j2I1uud05829 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 02:56:56 +0100 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 68so4211315wri for ; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:56:50 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=OOCbVfJ2FMUNstsBtJsmxBe7cRKs0DtOr44m2c2/Vgz8qya+z7x78HD9xsJP+KmSF74hW0LvsII5sjFjHN9gXCdQRmN8YfQNoUKui+wU7RG+rRnxjqwY6Ziu7PC3IwJOWX9Edy4PXq5h3gffeZiEdOf++B96rwxVT2eHUvSuJ7s= Received: by 10.54.51.78 with SMTP id y78mr441564wry; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:56:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.24.42 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 17:56:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <776a7163050317175676a0339c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 09:56:50 +0800 From: nilarcs Reply-To: nilarcs To: translations@grass.itc.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [GRASS translations] Simplified Chinese translation started Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: I have translated the grassmods into Simplified Chinese, but not finished yet. The grassmods_zh.po has been uploaded to the CVS , now you can download from the CVS. If you find any mistake or inaccurate translation , Please tell me. Best Regards! Zhang Jun 2005-03-18 From luisizq2002@hotmail.com Fri Mar 18 08:12:44 2005 Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f17.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.27]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j2I7Chd08551 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:12:44 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:12:37 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 07:12:37 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.200] X-Originating-Email: [luisizq2002@hotmail.com] X-Sender: luisizq2002@hotmail.com From: "Luis Izquierdo" To: translations@grass.itc.it Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 23:12:37 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Mar 2005 07:12:37.0456 (UTC) FILETIME=[DD60F500:01C52B89] Subject: [GRASS translations] Translation into Spanish Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi: I've already translate the po files into Spanish, could anybody provide me information how to merge the files with the binaries. I would like also to submit the file to GRASS as a contribution, could please anybody let me know which os the process to submit my contributiuon? Thanks Luis Hola: He traducido los archivos po al espanol, agradeceria si alguien me da algunas instrucciones para combinar los con los archivos binarios, tambien me gustaria publicar los archivos en el site de GRASS, alguien sabe cual es el proceso para que los archivos sean aceptados como contribucion? Gracias Luis From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Fri Mar 18 14:07:53 2005 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.207]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j2ID7pd11375 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:07:52 +0100 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 40so58860rnz for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:07:47 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=gkccEpUi4o3+5CRlPF1Y1E5Z7I33Mn5aAfx1C7iLMZ3Vk50p/S2R7pZCb9SZCqmCNGiE8zGxwSWj1VrcZW3VgSIh30jkn0j7n43kBUgQ8YPMQz3IfTIub/Q8MeEJHoZoaA+AmhVGA3U2qtuP6gjeInZa/Ql7yF1JQMEhD3NT/bI= Received: by 10.38.179.66 with SMTP id b66mr833534rnf; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:07:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.38.8.19 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:07:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180503180507133e4a66@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 10:07:47 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes Reply-To: Paulo Marcondes To: GRASS i18n In-Reply-To: <200503181136.j2IBa0d10149@grass.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <200503181136.j2IBa0d10149@grass.itc.it> Subject: [GRASS translations] Presentation + pt-BR translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Marcus and ALL; I've just subscribed to the list. I finally downloaded GRASS 6.0 source from the debian repository. I plan to compile this weekend and start translating to brazilian-portuguese. I see that Samuel has already started. I also talked to Carlos Grohmann, which is an old-time friend, asking him to work in this translation also. From what I see, 3 people working on it could get it fast paced... I did not clearly understand what should be the proper method tho translate...If i just get the PO files or the CVS snapshot. Please advise. As for simplifying the translation process, the hipergate.org site (a groupware project) has a "translation wiki" (only registered users, though) which I found quite nice an idea. I could look further and ask them advice on how to implement such an interface. As you are probably aware now, I did some translation for hipergate. I got a screenshot of said wiki on http://paulomarcondes.multiply.com/photos/photo/3/1.jpg -- Paulo Marcondes zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz my email has no z From neteler@itc.it Fri Mar 18 16:46:34 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j2IFkYd12938 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:46:34 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2IFkTgY017378; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:46:29 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2IFkTkh002811; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:46:29 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2IFkS5f002809; Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:46:28 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 16:46:28 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Paulo Marcondes Cc: GRASS i18n Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Presentation + pt-BR translation Message-ID: <20050318154627.GF2436@thuille.itc.it> References: <200503181136.j2IBa0d10149@grass.itc.it> <9fd2d2180503180507133e4a66@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d2180503180507133e4a66@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Paolo, On Fri, Mar 18, 2005 at 10:07:47AM -0300, Paulo Marcondes wrote: > Marcus and ALL; > > I've just subscribed to the list. I finally downloaded GRASS 6.0 > source from the debian repository. > > I plan to compile this weekend and start translating to brazilian-portuguese. > I see that Samuel has already started. I also talked to Carlos > Grohmann, which is an old-time friend, asking him to work in this > translation also. > > >From what I see, 3 people working on it could get it fast paced... > > I did not clearly understand what should be the proper method tho > translate...If i just get the PO files or the CVS snapshot. Please > advise. Please suggest how to improve the web page (this is asked quite often and I have no idea how to explain better...): http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php (just updated a bit) > As for simplifying the translation process, the hipergate.org site (a > groupware project) has a "translation wiki" (only registered users, > though) which I found quite nice an idea. I could look further and ask > them advice on how to implement such an interface. > As you are probably aware now, I did some translation for hipergate. > > I got a screenshot of said wiki on > http://paulomarcondes.multiply.com/photos/photo/3/1.jpg > -- > Paulo Marcondes > zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz > my email has no z What about doing an experiment with Brasilian in hipergate.org? I can't follow that in detail, but please send the .po files to me later for CVS upload. Markus From luisizq2002@hotmail.com Sun Mar 20 03:15:00 2005 Received: from hotmail.com (bay102-f42.bay102.hotmail.com [64.4.61.52]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j2K2Exd32510 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 03:14:59 +0100 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:14:53 -0800 Message-ID: Received: from 64.4.61.200 by by102fd.bay102.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 02:14:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.4.61.200] X-Originating-Email: [luisizq2002@hotmail.com] X-Sender: luisizq2002@hotmail.com From: "Luis Izquierdo" To: translations@grass.itc.it Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:14:53 -0800 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Mar 2005 02:14:53.0599 (UTC) FILETIME=[9A8432F0:01C52CF2] Subject: [GRASS translations] How to upload po to CVS repository Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Markus and All: I have new po files (Grasslibs and Grassmods) completetly translated into Spanish, I was wondering how I can posted in the CVS repository to make them available to the community, should I send them to you, or I can get privileges to upload them for myself. I really appreciate your answer, it's very important for me to post this contribution the next week. Thanks Luis Izquierdo From neteler@itc.it Sun Mar 20 16:15:12 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j2KFFCd15150 for ; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:15:12 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2KFF7pb016568; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:15:07 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j2KFF7Kv010932; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:15:07 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j2KFF7IX010930; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:15:07 +0100 Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 16:15:07 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Luis Izquierdo Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] How to upload po to CVS repository Message-ID: <20050320151507.GA10915@thuille.itc.it> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Luis, On Sat, Mar 19, 2005 at 06:14:53PM -0800, Luis Izquierdo wrote: > Hi Markus and All: > I have new po files (Grasslibs and Grassmods) completetly translated into > Spanish, I was wondering how I can posted in the CVS repository to make > them available to the community, only developers with write access can write to the CVS, so: > should I send them to you, that's an option. > or I can get privileges to upload them for myself. Do you know how to use a CVS in write mode? > I really appreciate your answer, it's very important for me to post this > contribution the next week. So just post to me for urgent upload :-) Please post CVS diffs of the files to avoid patching problems on my side. Markus > Thanks > > Luis Izquierdo > > > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From bhuvankrishna@gmail.com Fri Apr 15 13:36:08 2005 Received: from rproxy.gmail.com (rproxy.gmail.com [64.233.170.202]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j3FBa7d14367 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:36:08 +0200 Received: by rproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id f1so998891rne for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:36:06 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=O29kOYRss4pghnMMvEWj4RLaVi4LgNgqwt6lnnaAM4LRt1ijqlu8UNatwfLLZwV8yenI5qckrzezzN/Ieu+t5VHgf/8lmryNdtrdLY1CSn5RPkifSB0gBER3kyvWJWEjzrDv0M8YIqo0LUupD0lXEVvPfpT9If6qZ5dZN59T7yw= Received: by 10.38.149.73 with SMTP id w73mr2845111rnd; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.38.98.7 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 04:36:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:06:06 +0530 From: bhuvan krishna Reply-To: bhuvan krishna To: translations@grass.itc.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j3FBa7d14367 Subject: [GRASS translations] translation of grass into telugu Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi We prepared a glossary for translating various free software in to Telugu. Our intension's is to cater technology to the masses. We started with translations of 5 application's in gnome and have come out with a Telugu os called Swecha in feb.We are keenly interested in translating grass to Telugu (one of the south Indian languages).Hope we will get all the required support from the translation team From neteler@itc.it Fri Apr 15 13:58:12 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j3FBwCd15137 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:58:12 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FBw7Lp018422; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:58:07 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3FBw7hC011858; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:58:07 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j3FBw7cr011856; Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:58:07 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 13:58:07 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: bhuvan krishna Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] translation of grass into telugu Message-ID: <20050415115807.GE11447@thuille.itc.it> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Bhuvan, thanks for offering the Telugu support for GRASS! I can offer assistance of course. To simplify the process, could you send the Telugu .po files to me (could not find Swecha in the Web)? Then I can auto-translate the GRASS message files to Telugu and send them to you for review/extension. Once a certain amount of message is translated, the files should go into our CVS. From that moment onwards I (or any other i18n developer with CVS write access) would like to receive further updates against the CVS version. This is very easy to learn. But for now I can prepare the GRASS Telugu files for you once I receive PO files from your side. Or: you grab any existing other language from here: http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php#statistics and try yourself. Let me know. Best regards Markus On Fri, Apr 15, 2005 at 05:06:06PM +0530, bhuvan krishna wrote: > Hi > > We prepared a glossary for translating various free software in to > Telugu. Our intension's is to cater technology to the masses. We > started with translations of 5 application's in gnome and have come > out with a Telugu os called Swecha in feb.We are keenly interested in > translating grass to Telugu (one of the south Indian languages).Hope > we will get all the required support from the translation team > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From wlx@mygis.org Wed Apr 20 10:30:32 2005 Received: from mail.mygis.org ([210.77.68.237]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j3K8USd29670 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:30:31 +0200 Received: from ubuntu by mail.mygis.org (MDaemon.PRO.v7.2.0.R) with ESMTP id md50000011763.msg for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:30:08 +0800 From: Liangxu Wang Reply-To: wlx@mygis.org To: translations@grass.itc.it Content-Type: text/plain Organization: http://www.cngis.org Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:30:16 +0800 Message-Id: <1113985816.15183.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: wlx@mygis.org X-Spam-Processed: mail.mygis.org, Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:30:08 +0800 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 210.77.68.211 X-Return-Path: wlx@mygis.org X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: translations@grass.itc.it X-MDAV-Processed: mail.mygis.org, Wed, 20 Apr 2005 16:30:12 +0800 Subject: [GRASS translations] Grass Chinese translation mail list Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi all, I have established Grass Chinese translation mail list: http://list.cngis.org/mailman/listinfo/grass . If you are interested in translation grass to chinese please join us. Liangxu Wang From neteler@itc.it Wed Apr 20 14:48:12 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j3KCmCd32529 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:48:12 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KCm6CC003321; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:48:06 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KCm6QC008425; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:48:06 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j3KCm64q008423; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:48:06 +0200 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:48:06 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: nilarcs Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050420124806.GC7457@thuille.itc.it> References: <776a716305042002075565a770@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <776a716305042002075565a770@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: continued translation and libs translation simple Chinese Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Zhang Jun, excellent job! All messages are in CVS now: grasslibs_zh.po: 428 translated messages, 1 fuzzy translation. grassmods_zh.po: 846 translated messages, 17 fuzzy translations, 17 untranslated messages. This will probably boost you up to TOP 1-2 in this table: http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php#statistics :-) Thanks Markus On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 05:07:38PM +0800, nilarcs wrote: > Hi Markus, > > Today I finished most translation of mods , the rest is about TOPMODEL > . I'm not familiar with this aspect, so I do not translate them. > > This week I also finished the libs translation :) > > Please upload to CVS , Thank you ! > > > Best Regards! > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Zhang Jun > 2005-4-20 -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From neteler@itc.it Wed Apr 20 14:59:10 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j3KCxAd32613 for ; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:59:10 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KCx5GN006721; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:59:05 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3KCx5QB008530; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:59:05 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j3KCx5Vd008528; Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:59:05 +0200 Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 14:59:05 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Liangxu Wang Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Grass Chinese translation mail list Message-ID: <20050420125905.GE7457@thuille.itc.it> References: <1113985816.15183.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1113985816.15183.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 04:30:16PM +0800, Liangxu Wang wrote: > Hi all, > I have established Grass Chinese translation mail list: > http://list.cngis.org/mailman/listinfo/grass . > If you are interested in translation grass to chinese please join us. > Hi Liangxu Wang, I have added your list to the collection of GRASS mailing lists. A suggestion: Could you set the encoding of your mailman to the right charset? Currently it is: < META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" > Then the browsers should pick the right fonts automagically. Thanks Markus From neteler@itc.it Thu Apr 21 09:29:43 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j3L7Thd11446 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:29:43 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3L7TcT6024175; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:29:38 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j3L7TcWp014133; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:29:38 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.12.11/8.12.11/Submit) id j3L7TcN7014131; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:29:38 +0200 Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 09:29:38 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: nilarcs Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050421072938.GA14114@thuille.itc.it> References: <776a716305042002075565a770@mail.gmail.com> <20050420124806.GC7457@thuille.itc.it> <776a716305042021044be235c8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <776a716305042021044be235c8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: New Update Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 12:04:25PM +0800, nilarcs wrote: > Hi Markus, > > Yesterday I synchronized my local copy with CVS and found that there > were some new messages in CVS. The messages of mods increased to 925 , > so I updated my translation of mods today. The diff file is in > attachment. > > I think the next step should be refining the translation and > correcting the unsure or incorrect translation :) > > Best Reagrads! > ------------------------------------------ > Zhang Jun > 2005-4-21 Hi Zhang Jun thanks - it is in CVS now. I would appreciate if the other translators could update their local version as well to the current CVS state. I could also do this but want to avoid that I interfere with your ongoing efforts :-) Instructions in locale/README or on the Web (make update-pot etc). Later Markus From wlx@mygis.org Thu Apr 21 16:09:33 2005 Received: from mail.mygis.org ([210.77.68.237]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j3LE9Td14668 for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 16:09:32 +0200 Received: from ubuntu by mail.mygis.org (MDaemon.PRO.v7.2.0.R) with ESMTP id md50000011904.msg for ; Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:09:09 +0800 Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Grass Chinese translation mail list From: Liangxu Wang Reply-To: wlx@mygis.org To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20050420125905.GE7457@thuille.itc.it> References: <1113985816.15183.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20050420125905.GE7457@thuille.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: http://www.cngis.org Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:09:19 +0800 Message-Id: <1114092560.29271.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.1.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: wlx@mygis.org X-Spam-Processed: mail.mygis.org, Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:09:09 +0800 (not processed: message from valid local sender) X-MDRemoteIP: 210.77.68.211 X-Return-Path: wlx@mygis.org X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: translations@grass.itc.it X-MDAV-Processed: mail.mygis.org, Thu, 21 Apr 2005 22:09:10 +0800 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Markus, I am sorry that I don't know how to change the default charset. As Mailman doesn't support simple chinese now, but I can see it in right fonts automagically with mozilla firefox brower. The contents of the maillist has been encoded in utf8 directly, so we can see it in the right fonts if our system has the suitable fonts. Best regards! Sincerely yours, Liangxu Wang > > I have added your list to the collection of GRASS mailing > lists. > > A suggestion: Could you set the encoding of your mailman to > the right charset? Currently it is: > < META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii" > > > Then the browsers should pick the right fonts automagically. > > Thanks > > Markus > From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Tue May 31 00:19:50 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j4UMJnd03027 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 00:19:49 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so2490421wri for ; Mon, 30 May 2005 15:19:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=cB8mHWeBrwuIsHSAygy8qVsXimphHMQnXrEIyrjCyBZsKj/OrUAmM+mroN+QNTpJvj1sWONWSck4FIFSNK8gFm1UmSAEaBV8ueb5EB/vI0pvDQOqA79WBhmiaBFB67yTp9gXjpTeJyK5zBkKJx+YhhFKgXw1ZVdeK1PdlpAMuF0= Received: by 10.54.91.3 with SMTP id o3mr5819170wrb; Mon, 30 May 2005 15:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.108.2 with HTTP; Mon, 30 May 2005 15:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180505301519f2e86a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:19:43 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes Reply-To: Paulo Marcondes To: GRASS i18n , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gu=E2no_Grohmann?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j4UMJnd03027 Subject: [GRASS translations] Portuguese translation - starting tonight. Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Well, finally I got all system set up and got the po-files. I'll start this evening. Unluckly, I got the spanish one, which is not very complete... I'll see if I get the sources and try to get the singulars from there... -- Paulo Marcondes zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz my email has no z From neteler@itc.it Tue May 31 00:47:42 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j4UMlfd05216 for ; Tue, 31 May 2005 00:47:41 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j4UMlajb029241; Tue, 31 May 2005 00:47:36 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j4UMlafK001473; Tue, 31 May 2005 00:47:36 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j4UMla2J001472; Tue, 31 May 2005 00:47:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:47:36 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Paulo Marcondes Cc: GRASS i18n , Carlos =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=E2no?= Grohmann Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Portuguese translation - starting tonight. Message-ID: <20050530224736.GA1464@thuille.itc.it> References: <9fd2d2180505301519f2e86a9@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d2180505301519f2e86a9@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I have right now merged new messages into all existing po files. You can grab again the Spanish one from CVS, it should contain more messages now. Happy translating Markus On Mon, May 30, 2005 at 07:19:43PM -0300, Paulo Marcondes wrote: > Well, finally I got all system set up and got the po-files. > I'll start this evening. Unluckly, I got the spanish one, which is not > very complete... > I'll see if I get the sources and try to get the singulars from there... > > -- > Paulo Marcondes > zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz > my email has no z > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From neteler@itc.it Wed Jun 1 12:08:46 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j51A8kd28541 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:08:46 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j51A8fhG023013 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:08:41 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j51A8fns006849 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:08:41 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j51A8f8q006848 for translations@grass.itc.it; Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:08:41 +0200 Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 12:08:41 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050601100841.GA6837@thuille.itc.it> References: <000a01c530d9$1a8816d0$717bc1a0@ANH> <20050325100719.GD25495@thuille.itc.it> <20050601100438.GA6789@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050601100438.GA6789@thuille.itc.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] GRASS 6 and Vietnamese translation fixed Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, maybe some of you wondered why you never saw Vietnamese messages in GRASS 6. Today I discovered that the country code was wrong (was vn instead of vi). So it didn't find the locale... sigh. Fixed now in CVS, it will appear in the next release. Best Markus From sholl@gmx.net Mon Jun 6 09:19:34 2005 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j567JYd12423 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:19:34 +0200 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 1B3A9F403C; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:19:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (h-213.61.145.130.host.de.colt.net [213.61.145.130]) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA05F403A for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:19:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 09:19:44 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050606091944.4aedab53@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.11cvs34 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/ X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --Signature_Mon__6_Jun_2005_09_19_44_+0200_C0prLVf27/8u5bTC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear developers, is there already a release-date of the upcoming 6.0.1-release ? If so, please let us know, that we can hand in the latest translations, which should go into the new release, I think. Best Stephan --=20 Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de --Signature_Mon__6_Jun_2005_09_19_44_+0200_C0prLVf27/8u5bTC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCo/kSEg9SKhGUagkRAnuGAJ0bpEjTsOjBe+IdNB50bydeeJVMRwCdFhHA KN9UWNQ9stfTc+B0J8VGJUE= =OcQR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Mon__6_Jun_2005_09_19_44_+0200_C0prLVf27/8u5bTC-- From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Tue Jun 14 04:13:08 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.192]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5E2D7d27544 for ; Tue, 14 Jun 2005 04:13:08 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 55so337229wri for ; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:13:01 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=urd7Z63fNNX50i8bZeTadx3YGVbWCvoG1Pne49G6ZxtqmRhF/9XwPO9cPmgXtabNf4xqn5wuBrS1Ni4Ds2mqah84/5jMAQ4d3Mm9931/wfkWkymppdWtlCvzcdWCDAbTgPVh+kmo02Yn7yRNBrPVULkrNJvnvqdrobuIFoN5l5A= Received: by 10.54.29.23 with SMTP id c23mr3186378wrc; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.108.2 with HTTP; Mon, 13 Jun 2005 19:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180506131913304ee6fb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 23:13:01 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes Reply-To: Paulo Marcondes To: GRASS i18n Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j5E2D7d27544 Subject: [GRASS translations] grasslibs_ptbr.po almost ready Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Markus, ALL I am very close to finishing the first stage of the Brazilian portuguese translation. It took a lot more effort than I previously thought, partly due to me needing to learn how to diff & patch and learn my way through kbabel and poedit. I liked poedit's interface better, but in the end, the best tool is the one that gets the job done, so I'm sticking with kbabel. There are 51 literals before I get to grassmods_ptbr.po. I guess I'll email grasslibs_ptbr.po by the end of this week. It should be ready by now, but I had to get married last week. thanks. -- Paulo Marcondes zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz my email has no z From neteler@itc.it Tue Jun 21 05:10:01 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5L3A1d21417 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:10:01 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L39rff015001; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:09:55 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5L39dIC016112; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:09:39 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:09:39 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: janabhaaratii@ncst.ernet.in Cc: GRASSLIST@baylor.edu, translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050621030939.GA16086@thuille.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: janabhaaratii@ncst.ernet.in, GRASSLIST@baylor.edu, translations@grass.itc.it References: <1117547669.429c6c95e57fe@www.ncst.ernet.in> <20050601093037.GA6303@thuille.itc.it> <1119291113.42b706e950d4a@www.ncst.ernet.in> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1119291113.42b706e950d4a@www.ncst.ernet.in> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Marathi translation - was Re: [GRASSLIST:6967] Re: please lookup this bugreport Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Swapnil Hajare, thanks for your submission. Now your Marathi fils are in 6.1-CVS. I have slightly modified the file names to match the current GRASS scheme. On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 11:41:53PM +0530, janabhaaratii@ncst.ernet.in wrote: > Markus Neteler wrote: > > Let me propose the following: If you could translate a minimum > > (a few messages) and send us the .po file, we can insert it into > > GRASS and run some tests. Please indicate which locale/font packages > > are needed. > > > > I have uploaded partially translated grass po files for Marathi (mr_IN) to > http://www.janabhaaratii.org.in/portal/Members/swapnil/tmp/gis/ > locale: mr_IN > encoding: UTF-8 > Font: http://www.janabhaaratii.org.in/janabhaaratii/src/fonts/Gargi_1.7.ttf > I have done the translations for demonstration only. They are not final. > Now will wait for your response. Please test from CVS and continue... Thanks! Markus From neteler@itc.it Tue Jun 21 05:14:39 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5L3Edd21465 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:14:39 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L3EYoD016190; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:14:34 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5L3EYPO016137; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:14:34 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5L3EXsw016136; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:14:33 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:14:33 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Paulo Marcondes Cc: GRASS i18n Message-ID: <20050621031433.GB16086@thuille.itc.it> References: <9fd2d218050616195667997585@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d218050616195667997585@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: grass_libs_ptbr.po Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Paolo, it seems that we cannot code the name of the language in ISO 639-1 (where only 'pt' is found). Probably we have to change to ISO 639-2 names? Since I am not very familiar with that, I'd like to hear suggestions. Then the Makefile in locale/ would need an update. Markus On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 11:56:16PM -0300, Paulo Marcondes wrote: > Hello Markus, ALL > > This is version 0 of grasslibs_ptbr.po, the portuguese translation of > grasslibs_es.po. > > Somehow I managed to lose 7 literals. At first I was ashamed of that, > but I don't know how to rebuild the file, incorporating the 7 lost > literals. > > Markus, I feel you are in a better position to find those mistakes and > maybe point me on how to correct them. > > I've done this to best of my knowledge. If there is anything wrong, > please tell right away. > -- > Paulo Marcondes > zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz > my email has no z -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From neteler@itc.it Tue Jun 21 05:43:56 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5L3hud21690 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:43:56 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5L3hpsr023979; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:43:51 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5L3hpMQ017274; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:43:51 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5L3hpFX017273; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:43:51 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:43:51 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Paulo Marcondes Cc: GRASS i18n Message-ID: <20050621034351.GA17264@thuille.itc.it> References: <9fd2d218050616195667997585@mail.gmail.com> <20050621031433.GB16086@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050621031433.GB16086@thuille.itc.it> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: grass_libs_ptbr.po Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Paolo, ok, I found an easy solution! Now the file grasslibs_pt_br.po is in 6.1-CVS. Please try it if it works for you. Congratulations, Markus On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 05:14:33AM +0200, Markus Neteler wrote: > Hi Paolo, > > it seems that we cannot code the name of the language in > ISO 639-1 (where only 'pt' is found). > > Probably we have to change to ISO 639-2 names? Since I am > not very familiar with that, I'd like to hear suggestions. > Then the Makefile in locale/ would need an update. > > Markus > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 11:56:16PM -0300, Paulo Marcondes wrote: > > Hello Markus, ALL > > > > This is version 0 of grasslibs_ptbr.po, the portuguese translation of > > grasslibs_es.po. > > > > Somehow I managed to lose 7 literals. At first I was ashamed of that, > > but I don't know how to rebuild the file, incorporating the 7 lost > > literals. > > > > Markus, I feel you are in a better position to find those mistakes and > > maybe point me on how to correct them. > > > > I've done this to best of my knowledge. If there is anything wrong, > > please tell right away. > > -- > > Paulo Marcondes > > zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz > > my email has no z > > > > -- > Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it > ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica > MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis > Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From codeco@malaria.procc.fiocruz.br Tue Jun 21 14:43:06 2005 Received: from nick.procc.fiocruz.br (IDENT:0@nick.procc.fiocruz.br [157.86.152.50]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5LCh2d28891 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:43:03 +0200 Received: from mailgw-2.redefiocruz.fiocruz.br (root@mailgw-2.redefiocruz.fiocruz.br [10.24.24.52]) by nick.procc.fiocruz.br (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j5LCgwe0006132 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:42:59 -0300 Received: from dengue.procc.fiocruz.br (dengue.procc.fiocruz.br [10.24.24.4]) by mailgw-2.redefiocruz.fiocruz.br (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LCgwFP021537 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:42:58 -0300 Received: from 200.217.140.57 (SquirrelMail authenticated user codeco) by dengue.procc.fiocruz.br with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:39:33 -0300 (BRT) Message-ID: <61168.200.217.140.57.1119357573.squirrel@dengue.procc.fiocruz.br> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:39:33 -0300 (BRT) From: codeco@malaria.procc.fiocruz.br To: translations@grass.itc.it Reply-To: codeco@fiocruz.br User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Received-SPF: pass (nick.procc.fiocruz.br: 10.24.24.52 is whitelisted) receiver=nick.procc.fiocruz.br; client-ip=10.24.24.52; helo=mailgw-2.redefiocruz.fiocruz.br; envelope-from=codeco@malaria.procc.fiocruz.br; x-software=spfmilter 0.95 http://www.acme.com/software/spfmilter/ with libspf; X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6 (nick.procc.fiocruz.br [10.24.24.50]); Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:42:59 -0300 (BRT) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,AWL,BAYES_00, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on nick.procc.fiocruz.br Subject: [GRASS translations] brazilian portuguese Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I have finished a translation of grass 5.7 to Brazilian Portuguese. Whom should I send the .po files to? thanks, claudia From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Tue Jun 21 14:45:55 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5LCjsd28914 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:45:55 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 67so1406107wri for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:45:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=JqlZO06+0v6fGr37BbM0iSB/fLgB792D7amISE13ecSxv1eHII2jRO6MOh44iGDe5MCJHxwGEWZ1zx7fNHaXsyCTu64nXdK/N1WnKVGh6uCa5cCc5tFZO2R4zipn7mUpa2gHL5Oz/VNAyN0w4ZaYmIG5Xg4KKrxROv/PclW4aHg= Received: by 10.54.21.60 with SMTP id 60mr3152576wru; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.108.2 with HTTP; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 05:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d21805062105453105000a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 09:45:48 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes Reply-To: Paulo Marcondes To: Markus Neteler , GRASS i18n In-Reply-To: <20050621031433.GB16086@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <9fd2d218050616195667997585@mail.gmail.com> <20050621031433.GB16086@thuille.itc.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j5LCjsd28914 Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: grass_libs_ptbr.po Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: 2005/6/21, Markus Neteler : > it seems that we cannot code the name of the language in > ISO 639-1 (where only 'pt' is found). Sorry about that. I should have paid more attention to the names in the norm. > Probably we have to change to ISO 639-2 names? Since I am > not very familiar with that, I'd like to hear suggestions. From what I've seen, changing to ISO 639-2 wouldn't help either, because is the same language, but with a "local flavour". So I think we should stick to 639-1. However, I can assure you that are significant differences between pt and pt_br to warrant two versions. Not that one cannot understand the other, but it is a bit uncomfortable.... I think is almost the same as with german and swiss german. When we happen to have a (proper) portuguese version, then we should think on how to deal with this variants. -- Paulo Marcondes zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz my email has no z From neteler@itc.it Tue Jun 21 15:03:14 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5LD3Ed29013 for ; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:03:14 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5LD39xP006146; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:03:09 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5LD39vE020193; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:03:09 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5LD39nH020192; Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:03:09 +0200 Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:03:09 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Paulo Marcondes Cc: GRASS i18n Message-ID: <20050621130308.GA20119@thuille.itc.it> References: <9fd2d218050616195667997585@mail.gmail.com> <20050621031433.GB16086@thuille.itc.it> <9fd2d21805062105453105000a@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d21805062105453105000a@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: grass_libs_ptbr.po Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Paolo, maybe you have seen my other message - your file is in GRASS 6.1-CVS now and should be correctly identified by the LOCALE. I have to modify the Makefile in locale- for this. I think that I have found a way to have two indicators now, so identifiers such as pt_br are no longer a problem. Please test on your end (either with 'cvs up -dP' or the next Saturday's snapshot). Cheers Markus On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 09:45:48AM -0300, Paulo Marcondes wrote: > 2005/6/21, Markus Neteler : > > > it seems that we cannot code the name of the language in > > ISO 639-1 (where only 'pt' is found). > > Sorry about that. I should have paid more attention to the names in the norm. > > > Probably we have to change to ISO 639-2 names? Since I am > > not very familiar with that, I'd like to hear suggestions. > > From what I've seen, changing to ISO 639-2 wouldn't help either, > because is the same language, but with a "local flavour". So I think > we should stick to 639-1. > > However, I can assure you that are significant differences between pt > and pt_br to warrant two versions. Not that one cannot understand the > other, but it is a bit uncomfortable.... I think is almost the same as > with german and swiss german. > > When we happen to have a (proper) portuguese version, then we should > think on how to deal with this variants. > > -- > Paulo Marcondes > zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz > my email has no z -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From gfmb@hwr.arizona.edu Sat Jun 25 02:26:37 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5P0Qad15933 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 02:26:37 +0200 Received: from localhost (faramir.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.218]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BABAD0EAF for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:26:32 -0700 (MST) Received: from [128.196.176.75] (dhcp176-75.hwr.Arizona.EDU [128.196.176.75]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E43BAD5827 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:26:32 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <42BCA4B9.3010006@hwr.arizona.edu> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 17:26:33 -0700 From: Guillermo Martinez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: translations@grass.itc.it References: <200506221001.j5MA1Ud09278@grass.itc.it> In-Reply-To: <200506221001.j5MA1Ud09278@grass.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.arizona.edu Subject: [GRASS translations] spanish translations? Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I'm wonder if you need with the Spanish translations (tutorials, manual, man files, gyu). I'm going to teach a short course about grass (15%), Mapserver (60%) and other open GIS tools. I'd like to help in translating some short tutorial for beginners. Any idea about a tutorial that i can translate?. How can I help to costumize grass in Spanish? I have some programming experience with PHP and Mapscript. Also, I did my undergraduate thesis with grass, but I need to learn more about C and the CVS. Thank you, guillermo From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Sat Jun 25 23:17:54 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.199]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5PLHrd19342 for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:17:53 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i16so130651wra for ; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=f/dTe8v8bmxrALYFKblVe2aX2KJhchanKKwysSQ9X5hcdFKmOcph4vm98BXm47/HN+PD9XT8vz4gF8Qoma5ZJsfu7tu88RqI9sjXu1KDctdU9lvakv2izA96Asq1kVlV27yp3Q8RDlu+0g5ZGSmytb38oWso2E/EKvv75+shov8= Received: by 10.54.148.10 with SMTP id v10mr2534709wrd; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.108.2 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 14:17:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180506251417553851f8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:17:44 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes Reply-To: Paulo Marcondes To: GRASS i18n Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j5PLHrd19342 Subject: [GRASS translations] Making po - errors Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi All, I got the CVS snapshot today and when I said: paulo@onix$ make pot Makefile:22: include/Make/Platform.make: No such file or directory Makefile:23: include/Make/Grass.make: No such file or directory make: *** No rule to make target `include/Make/Grass.make'. Stop. I am not comfortable with make & friends, but then I'll have to learn sometime... -- Paulo Marcondes zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz my email has no z From dcalvelo@minag.gob.pe Sun Jun 26 02:42:25 2005 Received: from agrario.minag.gob.pe (mail.minag.gob.pe [200.48.142.5]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5Q0gOd20696 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:42:24 +0200 Received: from minag.gob.pe (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by agrario.minag.gob.pe (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q0cX0k014897; Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:38:34 -0500 From: "Daniel Calvelo Aros" To: Paulo Marcondes , GRASS i18n Reply-To: daniel.calvelo@minag.gob.pe Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Making po - errors Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 19:38:33 -0500 Message-Id: <20050626003740.M97762@minag.gob.pe> In-Reply-To: <9fd2d2180506251417553851f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <9fd2d2180506251417553851f8@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 200.121.147.207 (dcalvelo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Those are built when you do the top-level configure. If you have a full source tree, do a ./configure; otherwise, just comment out the include line in the Makefile. Daniel. -- Daniel Calvelo Aros ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Paulo Marcondes To: GRASS i18n Sent: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:17:44 -0300 Subject: [GRASS translations] Making po - errors > Hi All, > > I got the CVS snapshot today and when I said: > paulo@onix$ make pot > Makefile:22: include/Make/Platform.make: No such file or directory > Makefile:23: include/Make/Grass.make: No such file or directory > make: *** No rule to make target `include/Make/Grass.make'. Stop. > > I am not comfortable with make & friends, but then I'll have to learn > sometime... > -- > Paulo Marcondes > zpaulomarcondesz at gmail period comz > my email has no z > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations ------- End of Original Message ------- From neteler@itc.it Sun Jun 26 10:52:10 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5Q8qAd02848 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:52:10 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5Q8q5ML006748; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:52:05 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5Q8q5CT006345; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:52:05 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5Q8q59S006344; Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:52:05 +0200 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 10:52:05 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Paulo Marcondes Cc: GRASS i18n Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Making po - errors Message-ID: <20050626085204.GB6292@thuille.itc.it> References: <9fd2d2180506251417553851f8@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d2180506251417553851f8@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sat, Jun 25, 2005 at 06:17:44PM -0300, Paulo Marcondes wrote: > Hi All, > > I got the CVS snapshot today and when I said: > paulo@onix$ make pot > Makefile:22: include/Make/Platform.make: No such file or directory > Makefile:23: include/Make/Grass.make: No such file or directory > make: *** No rule to make target `include/Make/Grass.make'. Stop. > > I am not comfortable with make & friends, but then I'll have to learn > sometime... You have to run 'configure' before compiling. Please have a look at the INSTALL file. Markus From neteler@itc.it Mon Jun 27 15:32:01 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5RDW1d17515 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:32:01 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5RDVtOu019845; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:31:55 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5RDVt5Z026560; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:31:55 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5RDVsJB026559; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:31:54 +0200 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:31:54 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Guillermo Martinez Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] spanish translations? Message-ID: <20050627133154.GG13613@thuille.itc.it> References: <200506221001.j5MA1Ud09278@grass.itc.it> <42BCA4B9.3010006@hwr.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42BCA4B9.3010006@hwr.arizona.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:26:33PM -0700, Guillermo Martinez wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wonder if you need with the Spanish translations (tutorials, manual, > man files, gyu). I'm going to teach a short course about grass (15%), > Mapserver (60%) and other open GIS tools. I'd like to help in > translating some short tutorial for beginners. Any idea about a tutorial > that i can translate?. > > How can I help to costumize grass in Spanish? > > I have some programming experience with PHP and Mapscript. Also, I did > my undergraduate thesis with grass, but I need to learn more about C and > the CVS. > > Thank you, Hi Guillermo, the GDF Hannover published recently a GRASS 6 tutorial in German and English language (it's a free document): http://www.gdf-hannover.de/literature -> GRASS GIS 6.0 Tutorial. Version 1.1 Some translations are ongoing, perhaps you want to join for Spanish? Markus From gfmb@hwr.arizona.edu Mon Jun 27 18:37:55 2005 Received: from smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (deagol.email.Arizona.EDU [128.196.133.142]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5RGbtd20036 for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:37:55 +0200 Received: from localhost (boromir.email.arizona.edu [10.0.0.217]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B479AD6A8A; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:37:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from [128.196.176.75] (dhcp176-75.hwr.Arizona.EDU [128.196.176.75]) by smtpgate.email.arizona.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCEC5ACE602; Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:37:51 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <42C02B5C.10407@hwr.arizona.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 09:37:48 -0700 From: Guillermo Martinez User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] spanish translations? References: <200506221001.j5MA1Ud09278@grass.itc.it> <42BCA4B9.3010006@hwr.arizona.edu> <20050627133154.GG13613@thuille.itc.it> In-Reply-To: <20050627133154.GG13613@thuille.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at email.arizona.edu Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Markus Neteler wrote: >On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:26:33PM -0700, Guillermo Martinez wrote: > > >>Hi, >> >>I'm wonder if you need with the Spanish translations (tutorials, manual, >>man files, gyu). I'm going to teach a short course about grass (15%), >>Mapserver (60%) and other open GIS tools. I'd like to help in >>translating some short tutorial for beginners. Any idea about a tutorial >>that i can translate?. >> >>How can I help to costumize grass in Spanish? >> >>I have some programming experience with PHP and Mapscript. Also, I did >>my undergraduate thesis with grass, but I need to learn more about C and >>the CVS. >> >>Thank you, >> >> > >Hi Guillermo, > >the GDF Hannover published recently a GRASS 6 tutorial in German and >English language (it's a free document): > > http://www.gdf-hannover.de/literature > -> GRASS GIS 6.0 Tutorial. Version 1.1 > >Some translations are ongoing, perhaps you want to join for Spanish? > >Markus > > Hi Markus and all, Thank you for the invitation! For me, it's an opportunity to learn many things. Do you know if there is a team for the translation to Spanish? Which tools do you use for translating? What is the first step? I understand this can take time, but I'd to work weekly on this. About the material for the short course that I need to prepare, I'd to use some of the material that you have in: http://mpa.itc.it/markus/shortcourse/ I just want to show the people how to set up a location, and run basic modules to list, visualize the files, and perfom basic operations. Thank you, Guillermo From neteler@itc.it Tue Jun 28 10:05:26 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5S85Qd28684 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:05:26 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j5S85Ksq022440; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:05:20 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j5S85KUi030665; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:05:20 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j5S85Kaf030664; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:05:20 +0200 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:05:20 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Guillermo Martinez Cc: translations@grass.itc.it, info@gdf-hannover.de Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] spanish translations? Message-ID: <20050628080520.GE21145@thuille.itc.it> References: <200506221001.j5MA1Ud09278@grass.itc.it> <42BCA4B9.3010006@hwr.arizona.edu> <20050627133154.GG13613@thuille.itc.it> <42C02B5C.10407@hwr.arizona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42C02B5C.10407@hwr.arizona.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 09:37:48AM -0700, Guillermo Martinez wrote: > Markus Neteler wrote: > > >On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:26:33PM -0700, Guillermo Martinez wrote: > > > > > >>Hi, > >> > >>I'm wonder if you need with the Spanish translations (tutorials, manual, > >>man files, gyu). I'm going to teach a short course about grass (15%), > >>Mapserver (60%) and other open GIS tools. I'd like to help in > >>translating some short tutorial for beginners. Any idea about a tutorial > >>that i can translate?. > >> > >>How can I help to costumize grass in Spanish? > >> > >>I have some programming experience with PHP and Mapscript. Also, I did > >>my undergraduate thesis with grass, but I need to learn more about C and > >>the CVS. > >> > >>Thank you, > >> > >> > > > >Hi Guillermo, > > > >the GDF Hannover published recently a GRASS 6 tutorial in German and > >English language (it's a free document): > > > >http://www.gdf-hannover.de/literature > >-> GRASS GIS 6.0 Tutorial. Version 1.1 > > > >Some translations are ongoing, perhaps you want to join for Spanish? > > > >Markus > > > > > Hi Markus and all, > > Thank you for the invitation! For me, it's an opportunity to learn many > things. Do you know if there is a team for the translation to Spanish? > Which tools do you use for translating? What is the first step? Best will be to add a related page at the GDF Hannover web site. > I understand this can take time, but I'd to work weekly on this. > > About the material for the short course that I need to prepare, I'd to > use some of the material that you have in: > > http://mpa.itc.it/markus/shortcourse/ Please keep in mind that both GRASS and R evolved. Some modifications will be necessary. > I just want to show the people how to set up a location, and run basic > modules to list, visualize the files, and perfom basic operations. You may want to have a look at my new text "GRASS 6 in a nutshell" http://mpa.itc.it/markus/osg05/ which refers to the latest GRASS, QGIS and R. I want to modify the text a bit in the near future but not too much. Cheers Markus -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From dassau@gdf-hannover.de Tue Jun 28 10:50:32 2005 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j5S8oVd29613 for ; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:50:31 +0200 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 41479F408C; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:50:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from berlin.gdf-hannover.de (h-213.61.145.130.host.de.colt.net [213.61.145.130]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29665F4068; Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:50:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Otto Dassau To: Markus Neteler Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] spanish translations? Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 10:50:27 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 Cc: Guillermo Martinez , translations@grass.itc.it, info@gdf-hannover.de References: <200506221001.j5MA1Ud09278@grass.itc.it> <42C02B5C.10407@hwr.arizona.edu> <20050628080520.GE21145@thuille.itc.it> In-Reply-To: <20050628080520.GE21145@thuille.itc.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200506281050.27898.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on schudra X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 required=3.0 tests=AWL,FORGED_RCVD_HELO autolearn=ham version=3.0.3 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Am Dienstag, 28. Juni 2005 10:05 schrieb Markus Neteler: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 09:37:48AM -0700, Guillermo Martinez wrote: > > Markus Neteler wrote: > > >On Fri, Jun 24, 2005 at 05:26:33PM -0700, Guillermo Martinez wrote: > > >>Hi, > > >> > > >>I'm wonder if you need with the Spanish translations (tutorials, > > >> manual, man files, gyu). I'm going to teach a short course about grass > > >> (15%), Mapserver (60%) and other open GIS tools. I'd like to help in > > >>translating some short tutorial for beginners. Any idea about a > > >> tutorial that i can translate?. > > >> > > >>How can I help to costumize grass in Spanish? > > >> > > >>I have some programming experience with PHP and Mapscript. Also, I did > > >>my undergraduate thesis with grass, but I need to learn more about C > > >> and the CVS. > > >> > > >>Thank you, > > > > > >Hi Guillermo, > > > > > >the GDF Hannover published recently a GRASS 6 tutorial in German and > > >English language (it's a free document): > > > > > >http://www.gdf-hannover.de/literature > > >-> GRASS GIS 6.0 Tutorial. Version 1.1 > > > > > >Some translations are ongoing, perhaps you want to join for Spanish? > > > > > >Markus > > > > Hi Markus and all, > > > > Thank you for the invitation! For me, it's an opportunity to learn many > > things. Do you know if there is a team for the translation to Spanish? > > Which tools do you use for translating? What is the first step? > > Best will be to add a related page at the GDF Hannover web site. Hi, we actually plan to provide an 'official' translation platform (CVS?) for the GRASS GIS 6.0 Tutorial, where willing people can contribute. It would be great to have a team for the translation to Spanish and other languages, but we haven't announced it yet and currently it is a matter of time to set up an appropriate system. If you want and need to start soon for your short course, we can send you the latex sources of course, and you can start to translate and use parts of it for your teaching, according to the GNU FDL. After we established the translation platform you might join and add your translations. I hope it will be soon :-). Thanks a lot for offering to do translation work! Otto > > I understand this can take time, but I'd to work weekly on this. > > > > About the material for the short course that I need to prepare, I'd to > > use some of the material that you have in: > > > > http://mpa.itc.it/markus/shortcourse/ > > Please keep in mind that both GRASS and R evolved. Some modifications > will be necessary. > > > I just want to show the people how to set up a location, and run basic > > modules to list, visualize the files, and perfom basic operations. > > You may want to have a look at my new text > "GRASS 6 in a nutshell" > > http://mpa.itc.it/markus/osg05/ > > which refers to the latest GRASS, QGIS and R. I want to modify the > text a bit in the near future but not too much. > > Cheers > > Markus From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Fri Jul 1 03:50:58 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j611ovd01621 for ; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 03:50:57 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so334513wra for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:50:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=btDLe5hH3xAzNKBAEFMP89tbvVww9HEw1ZlBgGncEm43AeIuTgsXfeIYKEFek4ol2L53MMBeapnw3xjye/PzRf8VNTvU/gd/TPZfrcf7b1LgoiqfCZrDYlwVZY0heULeJRNtWMecX+THpvjIXO7PelRXa7thnXo/cQMYyGBshTc= Received: by 10.54.44.58 with SMTP id r58mr931404wrr; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.108.2 with HTTP; Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:50:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d21805063018505b8ed0f2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 22:50:50 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes Reply-To: Paulo Marcondes To: Markus Neteler , GRASS i18n Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_2177_30851663.1120182650886" Subject: [GRASS translations] grassmods_pt_br Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ------=_Part_2177_30851663.1120182650886 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Markus, this is yet work in progress.=20 There are 215 translated messages, instead of the 295 reported by kbabel. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j617F1wH019972; Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:15:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2005 09:15:01 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Paulo Marcondes Cc: GRASS i18n Message-ID: <20050701071501.GA19958@thuille.itc.it> References: <9fd2d21805063018505b8ed0f2@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d21805063018505b8ed0f2@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: grassmods_pt_br Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Paolo, On Thu, Jun 30, 2005 at 10:50:50PM -0300, Paulo Marcondes wrote: > Markus, this is yet work in progress. > There are 215 translated messages, instead of the 295 reported by kbabel. > > I am not the best translator, but there is a lot of work to be done.... Thanks for your work. The new grassmods_pt_br.po is in CVS now, I have updated it to include latest english messages. Please continue from the CVS file which you can get here: http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass6/locale/po/ -> grassmods_pt_br.po Markus From podenok@lsi.bas-net.by Fri Jul 15 16:33:11 2005 Received: from .Sw.bas-net.by (lsi.bas-net.by [80.94.162.89]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6FEXAd27996 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:33:10 +0200 Received: from [192.168.11.51] (sun.evm [80.94.160.200]) by .Sw.bas-net.by (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6FEWL7A018075 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:32:42 +0300 Message-ID: <42D7C81F.2030306@lsi.bas-net.by> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:28:47 +0300 From: podenok User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; ru-RU; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040808 X-Accept-Language: ru-ru, ru, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: translations@grass.itc.it X-Enigmail-Version: 0.85.0.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [GRASS translations] make pot Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, community! When I run $make pot I get $ make pot ../include/Make/Module.make:4: ../include/Make/Platform.make: No such file or directory ../include/Make/Module.make:5: ../include/Make/Grass.make: No such file or directory ../include/Make/Module.make:34: warning: overriding commands for target `/' ../include/Make/Module.make:29: warning: ignoring old commands for target `/' make: *** No rule to make target `../include/Make/Grass.make'. Stop. I think that ./configure should be run before, isn't it? From sholl@gmx.net Fri Jul 15 16:37:55 2005 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6FEbtd28027 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:37:55 +0200 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 44F40F40E4; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:37:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (p54824164.dip.t-dialin.net [84.130.65.100]) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id C20A5F40E4 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:37:37 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:37:53 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] make pot Message-ID: <20050715163753.6a451080@localhost> In-Reply-To: <42D7C81F.2030306@lsi.bas-net.by> References: <42D7C81F.2030306@lsi.bas-net.by> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12cvs43 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/ X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello podenok, On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:28:47 +0300 podenok wrote: > I think that ./configure should be run before, isn't it? Yes, thats right. The Makefiles need to created. Best Stephan -- Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de From neteler@itc.it Fri Jul 15 16:38:26 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6FEcQd28045 for ; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:38:26 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6FEcLa5024928; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:38:21 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j6FEcLq1013994; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:38:21 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6FEcLGJ013993; Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:38:21 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:38:20 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: podenok Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] make pot Message-ID: <20050715143820.GJ6449@thuille.itc.it> References: <42D7C81F.2030306@lsi.bas-net.by> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <42D7C81F.2030306@lsi.bas-net.by> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Jul 15, 2005 at 05:28:47PM +0300, podenok wrote: > Hi, community! > > When I run $make pot I get > $ make pot > ../include/Make/Module.make:4: ../include/Make/Platform.make: No such > file or directory > ../include/Make/Module.make:5: ../include/Make/Grass.make: No such file > or directory > ../include/Make/Module.make:34: warning: overriding commands for target `/' > ../include/Make/Module.make:29: warning: ignoring old commands for > target `/' > make: *** No rule to make target `../include/Make/Grass.make'. Stop. > > I think that ./configure should be run before, isn't it? That's absolutely right. You should probably also run 'make' (at least a bit) to get the binary directories created etc. Maybe ./configure is sufficient (let us know). Markus From glynn@gclements.plus.com Sun Jul 17 11:14:34 2005 Received: from cerise.gclements.plus.com (gclements.plus.com [84.92.46.14]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6H9EXd31571 for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:14:33 +0200 Received: from cerise.gclements.plus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cerise.gclements.plus.com (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6HAxMlE010916; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:59:22 +0100 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.gclements.plus.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j6HAxMmR010913; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:59:22 +0100 From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17114.14858.357417.238970@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:59:22 +0100 To: Markus Neteler Cc: podenok , translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] make pot In-Reply-To: <20050715143820.GJ6449@thuille.itc.it> References: <42D7C81F.2030306@lsi.bas-net.by> <20050715143820.GJ6449@thuille.itc.it> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Markus Neteler wrote: > You should probably also run 'make' (at least a bit) to get the > binary directories created etc. "make pre" should create the directories. -- Glynn Clements From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Mon Jul 18 03:48:30 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.200]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6I1mTd10892 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 03:48:30 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i8so926071wra for ; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:48:23 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fycxNnsNgVEgVSqpaWhCeXuMxmprG7w98MtE9GS1+p1FmAcEE8Hl4d78OLpwNF010akTK1jdtGzXzDahPCJ0Q3HeHdBmnjizaizF7Z6LaFEpjX+c7LCHs21bLAJ3BeS35ibadXHbFzr+WMMwPF4bXFAPo80foyprKPJvuUYEpns= Received: by 10.54.61.14 with SMTP id j14mr215141wra; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.108.2 with HTTP; Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d21805071718484bf8bd2f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:48:23 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes Reply-To: Paulo Marcondes To: GRASS i18n Cc: samuel cavalcante , Christian Ferreira , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Carlos_Gu=E2no_Grohmann?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j6I1mTd10892 Subject: [GRASS translations] Translation problem with computing jargon Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi ALL, I am struggling (sp?) with some specific computing terms, eg.: int, float, double. I do not know *if* and *how* I translate those. in pt_BR, if I am to translate those words and convey the whole meaning, they end up like this: integer == inteiro float == número de ponto flutuante double == número flutuante de dupla precisão any help on this will be highly appreciated. Examples from fr, it and es will help a lot. Also, I have to ask which literals are to be seen by users? all of grassmods*.po? all of grasslibs*.po? both files? thanks -- Um país que não consegue proteger o cidadão não pode negar o direito de defesa do cidadão. Entregue sua arma, diga sim no plebiscito e torne-se um escravo From sholl@gmx.net Mon Jul 18 08:42:05 2005 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6I6g4d14698 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:42:04 +0200 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 6C459F40E4; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:41:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (p548279EE.dip.t-dialin.net [84.130.121.238]) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2AE5F40DB for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:41:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:35:18 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12cvs55 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/ X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear developers, due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in grasslibs_*.po. It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their locale. What do you think? Best Stephan -- Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de From neteler@itc.it Mon Jul 18 09:40:41 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6I7efd15022; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:40:41 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6I7ea9D021400; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:40:36 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j6I7eaZp010680; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:40:36 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6I7eZna010679; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:40:35 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:40:35 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Stephan Holl Cc: translations@grass.itc.it, grass5 developers list Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] DEBUG-messages in grasslibs_*.po Message-ID: <20050718074035.GA10582@thuille.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: Stephan Holl , translations@grass.itc.it, grass5 developers list References: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: (FWD to 'grass devel' list...) On Mon, Jul 18, 2005 at 07:35:18AM +0200, Stephan Holl wrote: > Dear developers, > > due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I > vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in > grasslibs_*.po. > > It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their > locale. > > What do you think? > > Best > > Stephan > > > -- > Stephan Holl > > Check headers for GnuPG Key! > http://www.gdf-hannover.de > > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations From neteler@itc.it Mon Jul 18 09:42:09 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6I7g9d15068 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:42:09 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6I7g40Z021974; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:42:04 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6I7g4dt010697; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:42:04 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:42:04 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Paulo Marcondes Cc: GRASS i18n , samuel cavalcante , Christian Ferreira , Carlos =?iso-8859-1?Q?Gu=E2no?= Grohmann Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Translation problem with computing jargon Message-ID: <20050718074203.GC10582@thuille.itc.it> References: <9fd2d21805071718484bf8bd2f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <9fd2d21805071718484bf8bd2f@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 10:48:23PM -0300, Paulo Marcondes wrote: > Hi ALL, > > I am struggling (sp?) with some specific computing terms, eg.: int, > float, double. > > I do not know *if* and *how* I translate those. > in pt_BR, if I am to translate those words and convey the whole > meaning, they end up like this: > integer == inteiro > float == número de ponto flutuante > double == número flutuante de dupla precisão > > any help on this will be highly appreciated. Examples from fr, it and > es will help a lot. > Also, I have to ask which literals are to be seen by users? all of > grassmods*.po? all of grasslibs*.po? both files? > It's maybe worth checking what the Wikipedia community does. Markus From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Mon Jul 18 13:18:35 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6IBIYd17098 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:18:35 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i18so845979wra for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 04:18:28 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VKvdPJ2ka7s5/iVu998+X4B3O9/Fi8DOImQMKvohUUVBYYRKV4EDJp0Jwpdju7djE/SBN9daw06RQEPmcsm6LJ263ydWe33p8fnqie8bOGHleKHMUdkEksx0ADtr66SoL85lI1CzY7m0CM78lSc030yiVAhIPCM8cU2bsgQCMqk= Received: by 10.54.61.14 with SMTP id j14mr328453wra; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 04:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.108.2 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Jul 2005 04:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d21805071804183d2621e7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 08:18:28 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes Reply-To: Paulo Marcondes To: GRASS i18n Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] DEBUG-messages in grasslibs_*.po In-Reply-To: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j6IBIYd17098 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: 2005/7/18, Stephan Holl : > due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I > vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in > grasslibs_*.po. > > It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their > locale. Hi Stephan, I'm not sure on this. I think it is often good for users to know what is going wrong on his computer, so I think messagen in their locale are helpful. However, if he/she asks for international help, then you need to understand the problem, and don't rely on his english skills... So, I vote for both: English and a brief, localised version. -- Um país que não consegue proteger o cidadão não pode negar o direito de defesa do cidadão. Entregue sua arma, diga sim no plebiscito e torne-se um escravo From glynn@gclements.plus.com Wed Jul 20 06:13:53 2005 Received: from cerise.gclements.plus.com (gclements.plus.com [84.92.46.14]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6K4Dld08362 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:13:47 +0200 Received: from cerise.gclements.plus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cerise.gclements.plus.com (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6K5xO9q027319; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:59:24 +0100 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.gclements.plus.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j6K5xOkv027316; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:59:24 +0100 From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17117.59452.219258.771880@cerise.gclements.plus.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:59:24 +0100 To: Stephan Holl Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] DEBUG-messages in grasslibs_*.po In-Reply-To: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> References: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Stephan Holl wrote: > due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I > vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in > grasslibs_*.po. > > It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their > locale. > > What do you think? If a user is requesting help from an international list (e.g. grasslist@baylor.edu or grass5@grass.itc.it), *all* program output should be in English, not just debugging messages. IOW, they should be running the program in the C locale. [I know of at least one developer list where any message containing "Speicherzugriffsfehler" or "Erreur de segmentation" (the German and French translations of "Segmentation fault") will get bounced.] -- Glynn Clements From sholl@gmx.net Wed Jul 20 07:34:02 2005 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6K5Y0d08716 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:34:00 +0200 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 8E697F40E5; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:33:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (c-134-177-116.d.dsl.de.ignite.net [62.134.177.116]) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E550F40DD; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:33:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:33:58 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: Glynn Clements Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] DEBUG-messages in grasslibs_*.po Message-ID: <20050720073358.3e23956f@localhost> In-Reply-To: <17117.59452.219258.771880@cerise.gclements.plus.com> References: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> <17117.59452.219258.771880@cerise.gclements.plus.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.12cvs79 (GTK+ 2.6.8; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-Homepage: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/ X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc X-Face: yuSM.z0$PasG_!+)P;ugu5P+@#JEocHIpArGcQZ^hcGos8:DBJ-tfTQYWyf`$2r0vfaoo7F|h.;Agl'@x8v]?{#ZLQDqSB:L^6RXGfF_fD+G9$c:)p List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --Signature_Wed__20_Jul_2005_07_33_58_+0200__kbnUubDgYNV7vPq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Glynn,=20 On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 06:59:24 +0100 Glynn Clements wrote: >=20 > Stephan Holl wrote: >=20 > > due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I > > vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for > > lib/gis/debug.c) in grasslibs_*.po. > >=20 > > It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in > > their locale. > >=20 > > What do you think? >=20 > If a user is requesting help from an international list (e.g. > grasslist@baylor.edu or grass5@grass.itc.it), *all* program output > should be in English, not just debugging messages. IOW, they should be > running the program in the C locale. >=20 > [I know of at least one developer list where any message containing > "Speicherzugriffsfehler" or "Erreur de segmentation" (the German and > French translations of "Segmentation fault") will get bounced.] OK, so translating should be done. Thanks for your input. Best --=20 Stephan Holl Check headers for GnuPG Key! http://www.gdf-hannover.de --Signature_Wed__20_Jul_2005_07_33_58_+0200__kbnUubDgYNV7vPq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFC3eJJEg9SKhGUagkRApNiAJsGU/G8jQsd+wligLD+0zwU6lG7eACgtM0b x0jP31XL+dSEVrmaoA9lVD0= =BJBJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature_Wed__20_Jul_2005_07_33_58_+0200__kbnUubDgYNV7vPq-- From neteler@itc.it Wed Jul 20 22:43:46 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6KKhkd16986 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:43:46 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j6KKhfNE008876; Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:43:41 +0200 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:43:41 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Glynn Clements Cc: Stephan Holl , translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] DEBUG-messages in grasslibs_*.po Message-ID: <20050720204341.GE8771@thuille.itc.it> References: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> <17117.59452.219258.771880@cerise.gclements.plus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <17117.59452.219258.771880@cerise.gclements.plus.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Wed, Jul 20, 2005 at 06:59:24AM +0100, Glynn Clements wrote: > > Stephan Holl wrote: > > > due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I > > vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in > > grasslibs_*.po. > > > > It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their > > locale. > > > > What do you think? > > If a user is requesting help from an international list (e.g. > grasslist@baylor.edu or grass5@grass.itc.it), *all* program output > should be in English, not just debugging messages. IOW, they should be > running the program in the C locale. > > [I know of at least one developer list where any message containing > "Speicherzugriffsfehler" or "Erreur de segmentation" (the German and > French translations of "Segmentation fault") will get bounced.] Should we remove the macros then from debug.c? Markus From glynn@gclements.plus.com Fri Jul 22 05:14:30 2005 Received: from cerise.gclements.plus.com (gclements.plus.com [84.92.46.14]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6M3ERd02711 for ; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:14:28 +0200 Received: from cerise.gclements.plus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cerise.gclements.plus.com (8.13.3/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j6M4xuVQ018744; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:59:56 +0100 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.gclements.plus.com (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id j6M4xrZ9018741; Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:59:54 +0100 From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17120.32073.568299.149781@cerise.gclements.plus.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:59:53 +0100 To: Markus Neteler Cc: Stephan Holl , translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] DEBUG-messages in grasslibs_*.po In-Reply-To: <20050720204341.GE8771@thuille.itc.it> References: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> <17117.59452.219258.771880@cerise.gclements.plus.com> <20050720204341.GE8771@thuille.itc.it> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Markus Neteler wrote: > > > due to the fact, that the coordinate-language of GRASS is english, I > > > vote for not tranlating the debug-messages (e.g. for lib/gis/debug.c) in > > > grasslibs_*.po. > > > > > > It mostly causes confusion if a user posts debugging-messages in their > > > locale. > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > If a user is requesting help from an international list (e.g. > > grasslist@baylor.edu or grass5@grass.itc.it), *all* program output > > should be in English, not just debugging messages. IOW, they should be > > running the program in the C locale. > Should we remove the macros then from debug.c? No. -- Glynn Clements From laurent_courty@yahoo.fr Sun Jul 31 17:37:11 2005 Received: from postfix4-2.free.fr (postfix4-2.free.fr [213.228.0.176]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j6VFbBd31693 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:37:11 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (mar21-1-82-225-170-6.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.170.6]) by postfix4-2.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10396323439 for ; Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:37:11 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <42ECF026.1060704@yahoo.fr> Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:37:10 +0200 From: Laurent COURTY User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050721) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: translations@grass.itc.it X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [GRASS translations] French translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello, There are no messages about french translation for some time. I'm starting working on it. If somebody already on this translation, may we arrange to do the job together ? Laurent From dcalvelo@minag.gob.pe Mon Aug 1 18:08:06 2005 Received: from agrario.minag.gob.pe (mail.minag.gob.pe [200.48.142.5]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j71G84d18449 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 18:08:05 +0200 Received: from minag.gob.pe (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by agrario.minag.gob.pe (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j71G2RK9026373; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:02:27 -0500 From: "Daniel Calvelo Aros" To: Laurent COURTY Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Reply-To: daniel.calvelo@minag.gob.pe Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:02:27 -0500 Message-Id: <20050801155916.M78444@minag.gob.pe> In-Reply-To: <42ECF026.1060704@yahoo.fr> References: <42ECF026.1060704@yahoo.fr> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 200.106.64.243 (dcalvelo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: [GRASS translations][French] French translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Salut, Laurent. J'ai fait (en fait complété) la dernière version de grasslibs en français. Pour grassmods, j'avoue que le volume m'a un peu dérouté. Mais puisqu'il y a d'autres intéressés, je veux bien partager la tâche avec toi. Des idées sur comment faire ça à deux? Une semaine chacun? Les untranslated l'un et les fuzzy l'autre? Daniel. -- Daniel Calvelo Aros ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Laurent COURTY To: translations@grass.itc.it Sent: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:37:10 +0200 Subject: [GRASS translations] French translation > Hello, > > There are no messages about french translation for some time. > I'm starting working on it. If somebody already on this translation, > may we arrange to do the job together ? > > Laurent > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations ------- End of Original Message ------- From dcalvelo@minag.gob.pe Mon Aug 1 18:08:30 2005 Received: from agrario.minag.gob.pe (mail.minag.gob.pe [200.48.142.5]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j71G8Td18453 for ; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 18:08:29 +0200 Received: from minag.gob.pe (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by agrario.minag.gob.pe (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j71G2rri026452; Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:02:53 -0500 From: "Daniel Calvelo Aros" To: Laurent COURTY Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Reply-To: daniel.calvelo@minag.gob.pe Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 11:02:53 -0500 Message-Id: <20050801160253.M52352@minag.gob.pe> In-Reply-To: <42ECF026.1060704@yahoo.fr> References: <42ECF026.1060704@yahoo.fr> X-Mailer: Open WebMail 2.41 20040926 X-OriginatingIP: 200.106.64.243 (dcalvelo) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: [GRASS translations][French] French translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Salut, Laurent. J'ai fait (en fait complété) la dernière version de grasslibs en français. Pour grassmods, j'avoue que le volume m'a un peu dérouté. Mais puisqu'il y a d'autres intéressés, je veux bien prendre un bout de la tâche. Des idées sur comment faire ça à deux? Une semaine chacun? Les untranslated l'un et les fuzzy l'autre? Daniel. -- Daniel Calvelo Aros ---------- Original Message ----------- From: Laurent COURTY To: translations@grass.itc.it Sent: Sun, 31 Jul 2005 17:37:10 +0200 Subject: [GRASS translations] French translation > Hello, > > There are no messages about french translation for some time. > I'm starting working on it. If somebody already on this translation, > may we arrange to do the job together ? > > Laurent > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations ------- End of Original Message ------- From neteler@itc.it Mon Aug 8 10:26:48 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j788Qmd29242 for ; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:26:48 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j788Qg5Y019749; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:26:42 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j788QgBM021113; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:26:42 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j788QgfO021112; Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:26:42 +0200 Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2005 10:26:42 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Paulo Marcondes Cc: GRASS i18n Message-ID: <20050808082642.GE13463@thuille.itc.it> References: <9fd2d218050806210555c5a375@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d218050806210555c5a375@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: grassmods_pt_br... ongoing work Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Sun, Aug 07, 2005 at 01:05:56AM -0300, Paulo Marcondes wrote: > Markus, this is an updated version of grassmods_pt_br.po > > there are "only" 512 untranslated messages Thanks, Paulo! The messages are updated in 6.1-CVS now. Markus From neteler@itc.it Fri Aug 12 12:17:47 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j7CAHld25898 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:17:47 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7CAHgDR003324 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:17:42 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7CAHfJW031170 for ; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:17:41 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j7CAHfGl031169 for translations@grass.itc.it; Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:17:41 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 12:17:41 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20050812101741.GH30396@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Subject: [GRASS translations] Updating the PO files Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear translators, recently lots of new messages have been "activated" in GRASS (the gettext macro added). Most of the current PO files are not reflecting this. I would like to update them but first your latest work should go into CVS. Another option is that you update the files of your language at your end. Let me know what's more convenient for you. Thanks Markus From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Tue Aug 16 15:27:59 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.201]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j7GDRud21918 for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:27:58 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so1476996wra for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 06:27:50 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=H5jW14Kj5je38rCIB41gY+Yl4yLPi/Gxn7MhTcVssh2HRVgg+4b6TOdmnSoN6jk4wXnSE9/upMIdwOLT/qRHDy2jIpR+GT4kCbd5cDL0ALU0kSEHGrY1gU5x4qindR0MHXJNXerFLxBamAVlpCy/npRL0k1JRElXOGVFQuS812M= Received: by 10.54.48.76 with SMTP id v76mr4305417wrv; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 06:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.108.2 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 06:27:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d21805081606275c7e9b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 10:27:50 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes To: GRASS i18n , Markus Neteler Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] DEBUG-messages in grasslibs_*.po In-Reply-To: <17117.59452.219258.771880@cerise.gclements.plus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050718073518.659cbb89@localhost> <17117.59452.219258.771880@cerise.gclements.plus.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j7GDRud21918 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: 2005/7/20, Glynn Clements : > If a user is requesting help from an international list (e.g. > grasslist@baylor.edu or grass5@grass.itc.it), *all* program output > should be in English, not just debugging messages. IOW, they should be > running the program in the C locale. Hi all. Sorry for resurrecting this old message, but I was wondering if it was made clear to users that when looking for help in GRASSlist (or any other int'l list) they should post their debug/log messages in the C locale? thanks. -- Os bandidos aprovam a proibição da venda de armas. Torna o trabalho deles mais seguro. From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Wed Aug 17 00:29:07 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.196]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j7GMT7d27292 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 00:29:07 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so51641wra for ; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:29:00 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=oHw2tkxyRgPWb75KyAk3MNZlMcq7CTgZIwKJKgl+VXMpPmDzJKyWN9IT2jiPOvD1kUnKX7FEU5p0MkgQQp3EjjNHP8cxtxwGefGgxdqjoNJnbCjASlSM9TxN1+35nb+uiamaDAbk0MeynHUSDNRK04HIIA6+TemV7rP3tHPZNk4= Received: by 10.54.27.46 with SMTP id a46mr4406wra; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.108.2 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Aug 2005 15:29:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d21805081615297a296012@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2005 19:29:00 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes To: GRASS i18n Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j7GMT7d27292 Subject: [GRASS translations] Making po - errors Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: HI all; when building the po files from CVS 20050813, lots of messages: "internationalized messages should not contain the `\r' escape sequence" loooots of them. otherwise, all is doing fine. had to comment out lines 22, 23 from top level Makefile an 4, 5, 29, 34 from include/Make/Module.make I just wanted to compile the po files, just to get the hang of it. Now, if I wanted to merge my own translations to my GRASS install, what I have to do? put my po-files in the po dir, and justa make mo? Do I have to recompile GRASS? -- Os bandidos aprovam a proibição da venda de armas. Torna o trabalho deles mais seguro. From neteler@itc.it Wed Aug 17 13:52:04 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j7HBq4d03822; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:52:04 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id j7HBpxbA013652; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:51:59 +0200 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j7HBpxo6028778; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:51:59 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by thuille.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j7HBpxhr028777; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:51:59 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 13:51:59 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Paulo Marcondes Cc: GRASS i18n , grass5 developers list Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Making po - errors Message-ID: <20050817115159.GD13041@thuille.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: Paulo Marcondes , GRASS i18n , grass5 developers list References: <9fd2d21805081615297a296012@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d21805081615297a296012@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: (cc grass5) On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 07:29:00PM -0300, Paulo Marcondes wrote: > HI all; > > when building the po files from CVS 20050813, > lots of messages: > > "internationalized messages should not contain the `\r' escape sequence" > > loooots of them. > > otherwise, all is doing fine. > > had to comment out lines 22, 23 from top level Makefile an 4, 5, 29, > 34 from include/Make/Module.make I don't think that it is a good idea to comment anything in the Makefiles. The "problem" originates from messages containing \r: cd locale/templates/ grep '\\r' * grasslibs.pot:msgid "\r%d primitives registered \n" grasslibs.pot:"\r%d areas built \n" grassmods.pot:msgid "\rReading file [%s] ..." In detail: #: ../lib/vector/Vlib/build_nat.c:507 #, c-format msgid "\r%d primitives registered \n" msgstr "" #: ../lib/vector/Vlib/build_nat.c:534 #, c-format msgid "" "\r%d areas built \n" "%d isles built\n" msgstr "" #: ../visualization/xganim/main.c:337 #, c-format msgid "\rReading file [%s] ..." msgstr "" We have to discuss what to do with "\r..." in these messages. > I just wanted to compile the po files, just to get the hang of it. Yes, but it does. The make pot issues a couple of above messages, but apparently it doesn't matter. It says "should not" which sounds like a warning to me. > Now, if I wanted to merge my own translations to my GRASS install, > what I have to do? > put my po-files in the po dir, and justa make mo? > Do I have to recompile GRASS? This is (hopefully understandable described in locale/README, please have a look there and tell me/us how to improve the file. Thanks Markus From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Wed Aug 17 20:09:58 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j7HI9vd07719 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 20:09:57 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i1so285919wra for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:09:51 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=dTdnp8ajRZVEf9U5zsgCOVp3U5DrHnyHj2xLusft61kqhpOVhpU+QNTuewoKxRMnE63YsLlSJl/ZTqwIxnwTVw5cT+QZnqqf4zFD2TuZ9wRIkFkUyehhM2dR/DZuk1uBsy+tACSskhy9ttF2gibn4nQ9UPYF4yIfBTlqqGVRgfw= Received: by 10.54.4.45 with SMTP id 45mr615038wrd; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.108.2 with HTTP; Wed, 17 Aug 2005 11:09:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180508171109141e12a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2005 15:09:51 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes To: Paulo Marcondes , GRASS i18n , grass5 developers list Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Making po - errors In-Reply-To: <20050817115159.GD13041@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <9fd2d21805081615297a296012@mail.gmail.com> <20050817115159.GD13041@thuille.itc.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j7HI9vd07719 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: 2005/8/17, Markus Neteler : > We have to discuss what to do with "\r..." in these messages. I was talking to a C-programmer here and he suggested using backspaces. > > I just wanted to compile the po files, just to get the hang of it. > It says "should not" which sounds like a warning to me. I'll try again and see if it compiles despite the warnings. However, the files thus generated are exactly the same you emailed me 2 or 3 days ago. > This is (hopefully understandable described in locale/README, > please have a look there and tell me/us how to improve the file. Just read it, seems fine. I'll try at home and see what it feels like. -- Os bandidos aprovam a proibição da venda de armas. Torna o trabalho deles mais seguro. From dandelionca@gmail.com Fri Aug 26 19:51:56 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.206]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j7QHptd15732 for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:51:55 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 50so895161wri for ; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:51:49 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ITTgmeoA7pk0uX/YnEg++C+/hRGGNQRUL02ZCA3yZb+UNqYYMdT70MLeC8ON+JPBCIU8hs89roi3uM3YqrekdGuUrVIhio8w+PTmeHCzVqx91AtPGI+fuchxcEE4uAJsh+IWJgXY9RsI5VUZF2H6tz7F1CDCZg3HPtZvzn71G1s= Received: by 10.54.37.79 with SMTP id k79mr3518770wrk; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.113.2 with HTTP; Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:51:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38d9cebd05082610513578bf96@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:51:49 -0400 From: Cesar Villanueva To: Markus Neteler Cc: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20050812101741.GH30396@thuille.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050812101741.GH30396@thuille.itc.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j7QHptd15732 Subject: [GRASS translations] GRASS 6.0 Tutorial - Spanish Translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello * I would like to undertake the translation of the GRASS 6.0 Tutorial into Spanish. You previously offered to send the LaTeX sources, but I saw no follow-up to this issue. Can I get a copy in order to provide a translated version to Spanish speaking GRASS users? Thanks! -- Cesar Villanueva Caracas, Venezuela From dandelionca@gmail.com Wed Sep 14 19:58:10 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.195]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j8EHw9d28011 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 19:58:10 +0200 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 70so2204wra for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:57:31 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=bNuNt2/WdTwT6XCtSag6mXMwJ1MRmaLylK8ph1js3W1G1DpfMItLJc3+uyG1z2mJ/apeyc2ZrB+Q+pIPcbt/d6L/v8z4yx9jz1GJSkOIwa2ER1hhY77Cy6TL4VmOyz/NlL9x8rswK1pvmTXIGLnelqDk0F8E0axFdkZkyQx+CYo= Received: by 10.54.123.9 with SMTP id v9mr1207283wrc; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.113.16 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:39:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38d9cebd05091410394f1926be@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:39:55 -0400 From: Cesar Villanueva Reply-To: dandelionca@gmail.com To: translations@grass.itc.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j8EHw9d28011 Subject: [GRASS translations] Spanish Translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello * I would like to undertake the translation of the GRASS 6.0 Tutorial into Spanish. You previously offered to send the LaTeX sources, but I saw no follow-up to this issue. Can I get a copy in order to provide a translated version to Spanish speaking GRASS users? Thanks! -- Cesar Villanueva Caracas, Venezuela From dandelionca@gmail.com Wed Sep 14 23:53:19 2005 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.192]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j8ELrJd30638 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 23:53:19 +0200 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id x3so41369nze for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 14:53:13 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SqcbswMS2BGPo0eE1xwIlDviUqSquIyg2Mpw2y06ecdkbTfJcUjmD7c8wU0Z2AI/AJnyyCdRgCkU3qKRtYsCZI/8U57g2kZCBM7bLspaeAD9gGsBIK4I6k4MuaJAv5ON9uCTZPbvB1Tv05DDej/XfxC4qnJU/PZLboIJXYE+edU= Received: by 10.54.38.42 with SMTP id l42mr1214628wrl; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.113.16 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <38d9cebd050914103143508bf8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:31:06 -0400 From: Cesar Villanueva Reply-To: dandelionca@gmail.com To: Markus Neteler Cc: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <38d9cebd05082610513578bf96@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050812101741.GH30396@thuille.itc.it> <38d9cebd05082610513578bf96@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j8ELrJd30638 Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: GRASS 6.0 Tutorial - Spanish Translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hello * I would like to undertake the translation of the GRASS 6.0 Tutorial into Spanish. You previously offered to send the LaTeX sources, but I saw no follow-up to this issue. Can I get a copy in order to provide a translated version to Spanish speaking GRASS users? Thanks! -- Cesar Villanueva Caracas, Venezuela From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Thu Sep 15 00:46:50 2005 Received: from zproxy.gmail.com (zproxy.gmail.com [64.233.162.198]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j8EMknd30846 for ; Thu, 15 Sep 2005 00:46:49 +0200 Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id m22so68906nzf for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 15:46:43 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=FPp5jR69XcaLk5+BlPiH7yyzwSr2ZAWPPOTst90ptFB/MnvQ7HT+PMIxpYXLwXU+7r9+a4mxYv7I/tIAAGTOGDcBiYqBP78mhEOJtgsZwUPk/YZfsjSBYjXj09T53HMysd/iGbpaI7NPxDif8NTOC2PrxOkJ3YoIb+qpRiqQsSU= Received: by 10.54.46.40 with SMTP id t40mr1247377wrt; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.109.2 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Sep 2005 12:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d218050914123513430e88@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:35:24 -0300 From: Paulo Marcondes Reply-To: paulomarcondes@gmail.com To: GRASS i18n Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Spanish Translation In-Reply-To: <38d9cebd05091410394f1926be@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline References: <38d9cebd05091410394f1926be@mail.gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id j8EMknd30846 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: 2005/9/14, Cesar Villanueva : > I would like to undertake the translation of the GRASS 6.0 Tutorial > into Spanish. You previously offered to send the LaTeX sources, > but I saw no follow-up to this issue. > > Can I get a copy in order to provide a translated version > to Spanish speaking GRASS users? Hola Cesar, I think the best is to order the sources from http://www.gdf-hannover.de/media.php?id=0&lg=en I intended to translate to portuguese, but I am busy translating GRASS, so, no manual for now. saludos, Paulo From fjgarciaprieto@hotmail.com Tue Sep 20 03:47:20 2005 Received: from hotmail.com (bay14-f5.bay14.hotmail.com [64.4.49.5]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j8K1lKd07895 for ; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 03:47:20 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 19 Sep 2005 18:47:13 -0700 Message-ID: Received: from 201.139.8.180 by by14fd.bay14.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 20 Sep 2005 01:47:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [201.139.8.180] X-Originating-Email: [fjgarciaprieto@hotmail.com] X-Sender: fjgarciaprieto@hotmail.com From: "javier Garcia Prieto" To: translations@grass.itc.it Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 01:47:13 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Sep 2005 01:47:13.0452 (UTC) FILETIME=[38FFDEC0:01C5BD85] Subject: [GRASS translations] (no subject) Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Im from Mexico City and I want to know if you need some help to translate grass files to Spanish, if it is, please let me know. Thanks Javier García Prieto From laurent_courty@yahoo.fr Fri Sep 23 23:07:55 2005 Received: from smtp4-g19.free.fr (smtp4-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.30]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id j8NL7td05354 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:07:55 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (mar21-1-82-225-170-6.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.170.6]) by smtp4-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B5928263 for ; Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:07:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <43346EA9.2080802@yahoo.fr> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:07:53 +0200 From: Laurent COURTY User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050907) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: translations@grass.itc.it X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------070609020908030103090903" Subject: [GRASS translations] french translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070609020908030103090903 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Here is the diff-file of my work. Any suggestion is welcome. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id j8UA2Ywt030605; Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:02:34 +0200 Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 12:02:34 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Laurent COURTY Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] french translation Message-ID: <20050930100234.GJ29150@thuille.itc.it> References: <43346EA9.2080802@yahoo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <43346EA9.2080802@yahoo.fr> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, thanks, I have updated it in CVS (with two small fixes in the header). I have also added you to the AUTHORS file in the translators section. Markus On Fri, Sep 23, 2005 at 11:07:53PM +0200, Laurent COURTY wrote: > Hello, > > Here is the diff-file of my work. > Any suggestion is welcome. > > Laurent -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From projectalex@gmail.com Sat Nov 19 12:12:46 2005 Received: from xproxy.gmail.com (xproxy.gmail.com [66.249.82.193]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id jAJBCjd05190 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 12:12:45 +0100 Received: by xproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id r21so742222wxc for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:12:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=AZyR5f2FdcPYFIzJQCjxd8VaaJktcMV04uQ41722nCIMx7wIAqQmDPU2QA2qNd1mEZEnqcBrVSdLOrG+6OoXSKWWnqohvs8QKu+/OaJl2ZhvwfEPsTe5jDmMCHfV5HmpHFR/RHG657NQXzhWtMKrZ7eR7RXLhemfO1ajnflKJfQ= Received: by 10.65.137.14 with SMTP id p14mr846396qbn; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:12:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.176.7 with HTTP; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 03:12:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 16:42:44 +0530 From: alex burno To: translations@grass.itc.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_18483_27717809.1132398764458" Subject: [GRASS translations] Tamil language Translator Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: ------=_Part_18483_27717809.1132398764458 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline sir, i am an engineering student i just gone through the GRASS and found that u required that u want a translator for tamil language for ur messages i will assure u that at with my full extend i support this and i want to do this work for this community so guide me i m good enough in my mother tongue language regards, alexvikram ------=_Part_18483_27717809.1132398764458 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline

sir,
 
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alexvikram
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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jAJHHipg026762; Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:17:44 +0100 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 18:17:43 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: alex burno Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Tamil language Translator Message-ID: <20051119171743.GB26707@thuille.itc.it> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Alex, you are most welcoe to start the Tamil translation. I will send off-list the two .po files which contain the original English messages. please regularly submit changes - keeping them for long time may increase the risk of losing syncronization with the (changing/increasing) English messages. Thanks! Markus On Sat, Nov 19, 2005 at 04:42:44PM +0530, alex burno wrote: > sir, > i am an engineering student i just gone through the GRASS and found that u > required that u want a translator for tamil language for ur messages > i will assure u that at with my full extend i support this and i want to do > this work for this community > so guide me > i m good enough in my mother tongue language > regards, > alexvikram -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From laurent_courty@yahoo.fr Sun Nov 20 17:41:02 2005 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id jAKGf2d30890 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:41:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (mar21-1-82-225-170-6.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.170.6]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EB39731 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:41:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4380A71D.1020200@yahoo.fr> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 17:41:01 +0100 From: Laurent COURTY User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051106) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: translations@grass.itc.it X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [GRASS translations] nls and locale problems with FreeBSD Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I've build grass with nls support in FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE but grass is still in English. I've tested with 2005_11_19 cvs snapshot and 6.0.1 release. My LANG var is set to fr_FR.ISO8859-15 How could I run grass in french ? Thanks, Laurent From laurent_courty@yahoo.fr Sun Nov 20 18:05:02 2005 Received: from smtp5-g19.free.fr (smtp5-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.35]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id jAKH52d30982 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:05:02 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (mar21-1-82-225-170-6.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.170.6]) by smtp5-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D97B99722 for ; Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:05:01 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4380ACBD.7090608@yahoo.fr> Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2005 18:05:01 +0100 From: Laurent COURTY User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (X11/20051106) X-Accept-Language: fr, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] nls and locale problems with FreeBSD References: <4380A71D.1020200@yahoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <4380A71D.1020200@yahoo.fr> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.89.6.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Oups, it work. Next time I'll do deeper test. Sorry for the noise. Laurent Laurent COURTY a écrit : > Hi, > > I've build grass with nls support in FreeBSD 6.0-RELEASE but grass is > still in English. I've tested with 2005_11_19 cvs snapshot and 6.0.1 > release. > My LANG var is set to fr_FR.ISO8859-15 > How could I run grass in french ? > > Thanks, > Laurent > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > From neteler@itc.it Thu Dec 15 10:38:59 2005 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id jBF9cxd00953 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:38:59 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (thuille [10.40.0.110]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id jBF9csK9003457; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:38:54 +0100 Received: from thuille.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by thuille.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id jBF9crZ1006826; Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:38:53 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:38:53 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: WODGiK Lublin Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20051215093853.GD5802@thuille.itc.it> References: <000701c60150$8a8ac700$7501010a@urzd25cb67c250> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000701c60150$8a8ac700$7501010a@urzd25cb67c250> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: polish translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Artur, On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 09:21:25AM +0100, WODGiK Lublin wrote: > Hallo! > > I am a GRASS user since four years and some time ago I started my polish translation of GRASS interface. I would like to make it avaliable > for other users and I am not sure where to post my grassmods_pl & grasslibs_pl files. > I have made about 800 messages translated mainly in grassmods_pl so I hope it will be a good begining of translation efforts for polish GRASS users. > > I would be greatful for your advices how often shuld I update my grass messages to avoid of synchronisation loss. > > > with best regards, > > nieart > at inteia.pl excellent! I have added the files to 6.1-CVS (after fixing the headers). Please synchronize yourself among the potential translators. Do you manage to send updates as "CVS diffs"? Of not, we can either teach you or I can accept the full files (not preferred). On the Apache.org web site is a good explanation how to do it, we should probably borrow from them. Please submit regularly, maybe per 100 messages or so to keep synchronization. thanks Markus From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Mon Jan 2 21:39:16 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.197]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k02KdFd14420 for ; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 21:39:16 +0100 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i2so890279nfe for ; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:39:15 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=isuAmIOD5KdhUwKUVHVrrIo4E14eJmQRK3SL/lZxoDFpM/TtAk3X+eWB07Id4erZtFX2Cwfy+xnAf0eiasMnHmN1Prg3a4n9Jygosdr3pOjMfu9OoQT41yJvtGC4FUrgAPyiLmnFdEHWzYHxT6E+YTrzmMEynP+PbRPe7yPQQDE= Received: by 10.48.215.17 with SMTP id n17mr546294nfg; Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:39:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.215.4 with HTTP; Mon, 2 Jan 2006 12:39:15 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180601021239r792712ean@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 18:39:15 -0200 From: pmarc To: GRASS i18n , GRASSLIST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k02KdFd14420 Subject: [GRASS translations] Typo on grassmods.pot and "UI bug report" Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Sorry for xposting, but I was not sure to whom should I post this. #: ../display/d.text/main.c:104 substitute "postion" for "position" And it would be good if all references to screen position sticked to the same reference... I recall seeing refs to [0,0] being lower left, top left, top right.... It's insane.... []s -- Paulo Marcondes PU2PIX/PU1 Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org From neteler@itc.it Tue Jan 3 13:35:49 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k03CZmd27291 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:35:48 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k03CZhft000792; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:35:43 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k03CZhZt013389; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:35:43 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k03CZaV5013385; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:35:36 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 13:35:36 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: pmarc Cc: GRASS i18n , GRASSLIST Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Typo on grassmods.pot and "UI bug report" Message-ID: <20060103123536.GE12365@bartok.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: pmarc , GRASS i18n , GRASSLIST References: <9fd2d2180601021239r792712ean@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d2180601021239r792712ean@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 06:39:15PM -0200, pmarc wrote: > Sorry for xposting, but I was not sure to whom should I post this. > > #: ../display/d.text/main.c:104 > substitute "postion" for "position" Fixed in 6.1-CVS. > And it would be good if all references to screen position sticked to > the same reference... > > I recall seeing refs to [0,0] being lower left, top left, top > right.... It's insane.... > > []s > -- > Paulo Marcondes > PU2PIX/PU1 > Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org ...a major message cleanup is needed. Volunteers? Markus From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 14:15:13 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.195]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k03DFDd28496 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 14:15:13 +0100 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id d4so945945nfe for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 05:15:12 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cixLZfwCb3bkai56F7WQd2i7i3fLGuHJ5+TdEbBYXmkW875yq8x3EnM+RGq/y1Fpn6MiORjiTMXe82IzVpr6LY2zKUb0lSkh/SLda/L1j5bQCsbjAHYB4BaOXny9JzT1yvN3D4RFgyd+dhZue8HxAJpCgvvuXA+2OGr0bgDJYrw= Received: by 10.48.218.18 with SMTP id q18mr579080nfg; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 05:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.215.4 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 05:15:12 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180601030515p25c5a248s@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:15:12 -0200 From: pmarc To: GRASS i18n , GRASSLIST Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Typo on grassmods.pot and "UI bug report" In-Reply-To: <20060103123536.GE12365@bartok.itc.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline References: <9fd2d2180601021239r792712ean@mail.gmail.com> <20060103123536.GE12365@bartok.itc.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k03DFDd28496 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > > I recall seeing refs to [0,0] being lower left, top left, top > > right.... It's insane.... > > ...a major message cleanup is needed. Volunteers? What exactly do you mean? How can I help? -- Paulo Marcondes PU2PIX/PU1 Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org From neteler@itc.it Tue Jan 3 21:00:56 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k03K0ud01748 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:00:56 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k03K0pow009471; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:00:51 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k03K0pqi030710; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:00:51 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k03K0nO7030709; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:00:49 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:00:49 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: pmarc Cc: GRASS i18n , GRASSLIST Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Typo on grassmods.pot and "UI bug report" Message-ID: <20060103200049.GD30190@bartok.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: pmarc , GRASS i18n , GRASSLIST References: <9fd2d2180601021239r792712ean@mail.gmail.com> <20060103123536.GE12365@bartok.itc.it> <9fd2d2180601030515p25c5a248s@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d2180601030515p25c5a248s@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 11:15:12AM -0200, pmarc wrote: > > > I recall seeing refs to [0,0] being lower left, top left, top > > > right.... It's insane.... > > > > ...a major message cleanup is needed. Volunteers? > > > What exactly do you mean? We have lot of (very) similar messages in GRASS in English. The job is to make messages *identical* where possible. > How can I help? Identify messages which should be identical and modify them in the C code of GRASS 6.1-CVS. Maybe we can invent macros or whatever for repeated stuff. Then send the modififications as CVS diff (see ./INSTALL file how to do that) to one of the developers. Thanks Markus From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Tue Jan 3 21:06:34 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.193]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k03K6Yd01786 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 21:06:34 +0100 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id l36so999095nfa for ; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:06:34 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=U4sEK9HiI1ygK4pYc27iMHgk+8Swza7x+xZ6F9/YB2NUSZJy1y95lF+H5bRDrKC6HXmls8236BC92kQUDmtTNJNGmc821eRhAtVF6vgDKItdMwBta0TYYZTR+e4w7XtJJ6+iREKSRKaZ0wam3x+sTqYnYwAx7fnr9itcvzEuMpY= Received: by 10.49.51.10 with SMTP id d10mr546028nfk; Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.48.215.4 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:06:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180601031206x4f03f96y@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 18:06:33 -0200 From: pmarc To: GRASS i18n , GRASSLIST Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Typo on grassmods.pot and "UI bug report" In-Reply-To: <20060103200049.GD30190@bartok.itc.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline References: <9fd2d2180601021239r792712ean@mail.gmail.com> <20060103123536.GE12365@bartok.itc.it> <9fd2d2180601030515p25c5a248s@mail.gmail.com> <20060103200049.GD30190@bartok.itc.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k03K6Yd01786 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > Identify messages which should be identical and modify > them in the C code of GRASS 6.1-CVS. Maybe we can invent Beyond my current knowledge, since I don't speak C. sorry about that... -- Paulo Marcondes PU2PIX/PU1 Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org From Morten.Sickel@nrpa.no Wed Jan 4 12:55:19 2006 Received: from frontix.nrpa.no (frontix.nrpa.no [195.204.94.12]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k04BtJd11752 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:55:19 +0100 Received: from mailix.NRPA.LOCAL ([10.10.1.34]) by frontix.nrpa.no with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:55:13 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5.7226.0 Subject: RE: [GRASSLIST:9706] Re: [GRASS translations] Typo on grassmods.pot and "UI bug report" Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 12:55:13 +0100 Message-ID: <2326C830ADA651438DC694248E5FEF60698D83@mailix.NRPA.LOCAL> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [GRASSLIST:9706] Re: [GRASS translations] Typo on grassmods.pot and "UI bug report" Thread-Index: AcYQoVLBBdcShct0QEGLGkZaXno8AwAg9Y4w From: "Morten Sickel" To: "Markus Neteler" Cc: "GRASS i18n" , "GRASSLIST" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jan 2006 11:55:13.0825 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8C88910:01C61125] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k04BtJd11752 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: From: owner-GRASSLIST@baylor.edu [mailto:owner-GRASSLIST@baylor.edu] On Behalf Of Markus Neteler >> What exactly do you mean? > We have lot of (very) similar messages in GRASS in English. The job is to make messages *identical* > where possible. >> How can I help? > Identify messages which should be identical and modify them in the C code of GRASS 6.1-CVS. Maybe we > can invent macros or whatever for repeated stuff. Then send the modififications as CVS diff (see > ./INSTALL file how to do that) to one of the developers. I'll have a look at it. Cannot guarantee anything yet, but will give some feedback soon. Morten From neteler@itc.it Mon Jan 16 10:15:03 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k0G9F3d29932 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:15:03 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0G9EwDq032519; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:14:58 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0G9Ew1X011922; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:14:58 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0G9EvvL011921; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:14:57 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:14:57 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20060116091457.GD8534@bartok.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Subject: [GRASS translations] GRASS translations to Slovene/French/Spanish Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Miha, Luis, Daniel, el bueno, Laurent, Emmanuel, Eve, do you have any unsubmitted changes to your files in GRASS 6.1-CVS? Otherwise I would like to merge new messages into these files. Markus -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From neteler@itc.it Mon Jan 16 10:31:16 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k0G9VGd30067 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:31:16 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0G9VBME003111; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:31:11 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0G9VBwU011987; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:31:11 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0G9VBoP011986; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:31:11 +0100 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:31:11 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Miha Staut Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] GRASS translations to Slovene/French/Spanish Message-ID: <20060116093111.GE8534@bartok.itc.it> References: <20060116091457.GD8534@bartok.itc.it> <20060116092806.65875.qmail@web25410.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20060116092806.65875.qmail@web25410.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Miha, (cc list) On Mon, Jan 16, 2006 at 09:28:06AM +0000, Miha Staut wrote: > I did not touch the stuff for quite a while so please go ahead. Done. > Currently I am > trying to find some people to test my translations. Some words are also > problematic as I am far from a computer expert. I am trying to help myself with > the Linux-Dictionary.pdf. Any further suggestions? Maybe you can discuss this in the list? A lot of translators are in the same situation. AFAIK the French translators have started to develop a glossary to keep certain words in English. Maybe we should move this into the locale/ directory? Markus > All best, > Miha > > > --- Markus Neteler wrote: > > > Hi Miha, Luis, Daniel, el bueno, Laurent, > > Emmanuel, Eve, > > > > do you have any unsubmitted changes to your > > files in GRASS 6.1-CVS? Otherwise I would like to > > merge new messages into these files. > > > > Markus > > -- > > Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it > > ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica > > MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis > > Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy > > _______________________________________________ > > translations mailing list > > translations@grass.itc.it > > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Yahoo! Photos – NEW, now offering a quality print service from just 8p a photo http://uk.photos.yahoo.com -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From esaracco@users.labs.libre-entreprise.org Mon Jan 16 10:31:30 2006 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr (smtp6-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.36]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k0G9VUd30071 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:31:30 +0100 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (lab75-3-82-229-244-3.fbx.proxad.net [82.229.244.3]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35FB18194 for ; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:31:29 +0100 (CET) From: Emmanuel Saracco To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20060116091457.GD8534@bartok.itc.it> References: <20060116091457.GD8534@bartok.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 10:31:28 +0100 Message-Id: <1137403888.3824.24.camel@badiou.philo.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: GRASS translations to Slovene/French/Spanish Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Le lundi 16 janvier 2006 à 10:14 +0100, Markus Neteler a écrit : > Hi Miha, Luis, Daniel, el bueno, Laurent, > Emmanuel, Eve, Hi, > do you have any unsubmitted changes to your > files in GRASS 6.1-CVS? Otherwise I would like to No. > merge new messages into these files. Ok. My apologies for not having worked on the French translation for a long time. I will try to update it soon. Bye From neteler@itc.it Wed Jan 18 13:13:54 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k0ICDsd00831 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:13:54 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k0ICDnap000838; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:13:49 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k0ICDn3n012438; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:13:49 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k0ICDgCH012435; Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:13:42 +0100 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:13:42 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Cc: GRASS user list Message-ID: <20060118121342.GA12364@bartok.itc.it> Mail-Followup-To: translations@grass.itc.it, GRASS user list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Subject: [GRASS translations] Translations statistics: language names added Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, thanks to Stephan Holl, we have the full language names explaining the ISO codes of the .po message files: http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php#statistics Further translators are welcome. Markus From lrntct@gmail.com Wed Feb 1 22:33:42 2006 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr (smtp1-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.27]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k11LXgd27813 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:33:42 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (mar21-1-82-225-170-6.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.170.6]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEAA46924B; Wed, 1 Feb 2006 22:33:36 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43E12930.4030600@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:33:36 +0100 From: "Laurent C." User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] GRASS translations to Slovene/French/Spanish References: <20060116091457.GD8534@bartok.itc.it> <20060116092806.65875.qmail@web25410.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20060116093111.GE8534@bartok.itc.it> In-Reply-To: <20060116093111.GE8534@bartok.itc.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, I'm interested for such a glossary. I've read Eve's translation of grass in a nutshell. Some words haven't the same translation between grasslib, grassmod and nutshell. I'm ok to use nutshell version (because this is the only complete translation) in all the files if every translators agree. It's not very easy to harmonize since some translators are on GDF translation list and other on this one. I think this is very important to have a glossary. Laurent Markus Neteler wrote: > Maybe you can discuss this in the list? A lot of translators are > in the same situation. AFAIK the French translators have started to > develop a glossary to keep certain words in English. > > Maybe we should move this into the locale/ directory? > > Markus From dassau@gdf-hannover.de Thu Feb 2 12:36:21 2006 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k12BaLd06558 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:36:21 +0100 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 16853F4107; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:36:21 +0100 (CET) Received: from berlin.gdf-hannover.de (p5482588D.dip.t-dialin.net [84.130.88.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F80BF4102 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:36:17 +0100 (CET) From: Otto Dassau To: translations@grass.itc.it Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:36:15 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200602021101.k12B1Gd06445@grass.itc.it> In-Reply-To: <200602021101.k12B1Gd06445@grass.itc.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200602021236.15577.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on schudra X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.3 Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest, Vol 1 #93 - 1 msg Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi, > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:33:36 +0100 > From: "Laurent C." > To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it > Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] GRASS translations to > Slovene/French/Spanish > > Hi, > I'm interested for such a glossary. I've read Eve's translation of grass > in a nutshell. > Some words haven't the same translation between grasslib, grassmod and > nutshell. > > I'm ok to use nutshell version (because this is the only complete > translation) in all the files if every translators agree. I agree, we should try to harmonize although it seems to be difficult. Since we currently work in two repositories cvs (grass.itc) and svn (GDF), we probably need to find a solution, to develope and keep a glossary uptodate and make it easy for everybody to contribute and change entries. Best solution for translators would be to have one glossary file for all currently available languages included once in each repository, I guess. This is difficult to achive - I don't have a clue for that. Someone could try to take care, that changes in one version will be commited to the other. Not the best solution, but maybe the easiest for now? I could do that if we go for it - but I hope we find a better one :-). Otto > It's not very easy to harmonize since some translators are on GDF > translation list and other on this one. > I think this is very important to have a glossary. > > Laurent > > Markus Neteler wrote: > > Maybe you can discuss this in the list? A lot of translators are > > in the same situation. AFAIK the French translators have started to > > develop a glossary to keep certain words in English. > > > > Maybe we should move this into the locale/ directory? > > > > Markus > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > > > End of translations Digest From neteler@itc.it Thu Feb 2 14:06:48 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k12D6md07706 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:06:48 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k12D6g8b031953; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:06:42 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:06:42 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Otto Dassau Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest, Vol 1 #93 - 1 msg Message-ID: <20060202130642.GC31588@bartok.itc.it> References: <200602021101.k12B1Gd06445@grass.itc.it> <200602021236.15577.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200602021236.15577.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 12:36:15PM +0100, Otto Dassau wrote: > Hi, > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:33:36 +0100 > > From: "Laurent C." > > To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it > > Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] GRASS translations to > > Slovene/French/Spanish > > > > Hi, > > I'm interested for such a glossary. I've read Eve's translation of grass > > in a nutshell. > > Some words haven't the same translation between grasslib, grassmod and > > nutshell. > > > > I'm ok to use nutshell version (because this is the only complete > > translation) in all the files if every translators agree. > > I agree, we should try to harmonize although it seems to be difficult. Since > we currently work in two repositories cvs (grass.itc) and svn (GDF), we > probably need to find a solution, to develope and keep a glossary uptodate > and make it easy for everybody to contribute and change entries. We could use the WIKI. It's very simple to make a table in TWIKI. Later it could become something fancy (e.g. PostGRESQL with pgpPGadmin) > Best solution for translators would be to have one glossary file for all > currently available languages included once in each repository, I guess. This > is difficult to achive - I don't have a clue for that. Why not a simple table as first approach? english | french | german | spanish | ... ---------+--------+--------+---------+---- location | .... | ... ... Maybe I am missing something. Markus From dassau@gdf-hannover.de Thu Feb 2 14:14:17 2006 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k12DEGd07760 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:14:16 +0100 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 629C7F4102; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:14:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from berlin.gdf-hannover.de (p5482588D.dip.t-dialin.net [84.130.88.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE422F4102 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:14:15 +0100 (CET) From: Otto Dassau To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest, Vol 1 #93 - 1 msg Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:14:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200602021101.k12B1Gd06445@grass.itc.it> <200602021236.15577.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> <20060202130642.GC31588@bartok.itc.it> In-Reply-To: <20060202130642.GC31588@bartok.itc.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200602021414.14312.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on schudra X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.3 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 14:06 schrieb Markus Neteler: > On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 12:36:15PM +0100, Otto Dassau wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > Message: 1 > > > Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:33:36 +0100 > > > From: "Laurent C." > > > To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it > > > Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] GRASS translations to > > > Slovene/French/Spanish > > > > > > Hi, > > > I'm interested for such a glossary. I've read Eve's translation of > > > grass in a nutshell. > > > Some words haven't the same translation between grasslib, grassmod and > > > nutshell. > > > > > > I'm ok to use nutshell version (because this is the only complete > > > translation) in all the files if every translators agree. > > > > I agree, we should try to harmonize although it seems to be difficult. > > Since we currently work in two repositories cvs (grass.itc) and svn > > (GDF), we probably need to find a solution, to develope and keep a > > glossary uptodate and make it easy for everybody to contribute and change > > entries. > > We could use the WIKI. It's very simple to make a table in > TWIKI. Later it could become something fancy (e.g. PostGRESQL with > pgpPGadmin) > > > Best solution for translators would be to have one glossary file for all > > currently available languages included once in each repository, I guess. > > This is difficult to achive - I don't have a clue for that. > > Why not a simple table as first approach? > > english | french | german | spanish | ... > ---------+--------+--------+---------+---- > location | .... | ... > ... > > Maybe I am missing something. no, as a first step it is fine I guess :-). I just thought, people are lazy and don't want to get their nessesary translation stuff from different URLs or Repositories, but the wiki is great and easy to edit! maybe a new page called translation_glossary here?: http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/twiki/bin/view/GRASS/GrassDocs if all agree; i would start a table... regards, Otto From neteler@itc.it Thu Feb 2 14:41:57 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k12Dfvd07968 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:41:57 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k12DfqCS030580; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:41:52 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k12DfqZi032555; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:41:52 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k12Dfqiu032554; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:41:52 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:41:52 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: Otto Dassau Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest, Vol 1 #93 - 1 msg Message-ID: <20060202134151.GH31588@bartok.itc.it> References: <200602021101.k12B1Gd06445@grass.itc.it> <200602021236.15577.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> <20060202130642.GC31588@bartok.itc.it> <200602021414.14312.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200602021414.14312.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 02:14:14PM +0100, Otto Dassau wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 14:06 schrieb Markus Neteler: > > On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 12:36:15PM +0100, Otto Dassau wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:33:36 +0100 > > > > From: "Laurent C." > > > > To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it > > > > Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] GRASS translations to > > > > Slovene/French/Spanish > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I'm interested for such a glossary. I've read Eve's translation of > > > > grass in a nutshell. > > > > Some words haven't the same translation between grasslib, grassmod and > > > > nutshell. > > > > > > > > I'm ok to use nutshell version (because this is the only complete > > > > translation) in all the files if every translators agree. > > > > > > I agree, we should try to harmonize although it seems to be difficult. > > > Since we currently work in two repositories cvs (grass.itc) and svn > > > (GDF), we probably need to find a solution, to develope and keep a > > > glossary uptodate and make it easy for everybody to contribute and change > > > entries. > > > > We could use the WIKI. It's very simple to make a table in > > TWIKI. Later it could become something fancy (e.g. PostGRESQL with > > pgpPGadmin) > > > > > Best solution for translators would be to have one glossary file for all > > > currently available languages included once in each repository, I guess. > > > This is difficult to achive - I don't have a clue for that. > > > > Why not a simple table as first approach? > > > > english | french | german | spanish | ... > > ---------+--------+--------+---------+---- > > location | .... | ... > > ... > > > > Maybe I am missing something. > > no, as a first step it is fine I guess :-). I just thought, people are lazy > and don't want to get their nessesary translation stuff from different URLs > or Repositories, but the wiki is great and easy to edit! sure but for fetching the static version we could, instead of cloning the glossary everywhere, simply add a "fetch_glossary.sh" script which used wget to download the page from the WIKI. > maybe a new page called translation_glossary here?: > http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/twiki/bin/view/GRASS/GrassDocs > > if all agree; i would start a table... Let's go :-) Markus From dassau@gdf-hannover.de Thu Feb 2 15:04:50 2006 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k12E4od08103 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:04:50 +0100 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id AEEC5F4107; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:04:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from berlin.gdf-hannover.de (p5482588D.dip.t-dialin.net [84.130.88.141]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61406F4102; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:04:45 +0100 (CET) From: Otto Dassau To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest, Vol 1 #93 - 1 msg Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:04:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 Cc: gdf-translation@gdf-hannover.de References: <200602021340.k12DeuiA028733@rio.magic.fr> In-Reply-To: <200602021340.k12DeuiA028733@rio.magic.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200602021504.43691.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on schudra X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k12E4od08103 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 14:40 schrieb Eve Rousseau: > Hi everyone, Hi, > To Laurent : I've seen checked the different translations on GRASS, from > Morritz Lennert tutorial, to your work on the GIS software messages, to > most recent translations of the GDF Tutorial. Most of the time, I don't > think it is a big problem for users as long as we manage to include in the > documentation a file stating the correspondances between Location=Secteur, > Mapset=Jeu de donnees, etc. > > To Otto, Markus : I've build such a table with the help of JD Guiguère and > discussed about it with Stephan Holl (it's just a draft with English words > and French translations - and I could also add Spanish translations, from > the 'nutshell' translated by G. Martinez). > As a simple translation tool, it's fine I think - and the wiki (or the GDF > subversion server maybe) would be a could place for it. > Later we could think of adding small english defs? > Stephan had found something more elaborate as a technical solution, but I > let you guys discuss about it since it's a lot of work setting up something > new and since we already have many collaborative tools available here... :) ok, Stephan will be online tomorrow again, so we wait and after we find _the_ best and easiest solution, we go for it. I think a wiki table would be reasonable and Markus' idea to connect the table via scripting into the repositories or maybe even language wise into the latex document :-) sounds nice to me. So we start tomorrow and take the table Eve and JD Guiguère built as the initial document - ok? Otto > See you, > Eve > > > Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 14:06 schrieb Markus Neteler: > > > On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 12:36:15PM +0100, Otto Dassau wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > > Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:33:36 +0100 > > > > > From: "Laurent C." > > > > > To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it > > > > > Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] GRASS translations to > > > > > Slovene/French/Spanish > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I'm interested for such a glossary. I've read Eve's translation of > > > > > grass in a nutshell. > > > > > Some words haven't the same translation between grasslib, grassmod > > > > > and nutshell. > > > > > > > > > > I'm ok to use nutshell version (because this is the only complete > > > > > translation) in all the files if every translators agree. > > > > > > > > I agree, we should try to harmonize although it seems to be > > > > difficult. Since we currently work in two repositories cvs > > > > (grass.itc) and svn (GDF), we probably need to find a solution, to > > > > develope and keep a glossary uptodate and make it easy for everybody > > > > to contribute and change entries. > > > > > > We could use the WIKI. It's very simple to make a table in > > > TWIKI. Later it could become something fancy (e.g. PostGRESQL with > > > pgpPGadmin) > > > > > > > Best solution for translators would be to have one glossary file for > > > > all currently available languages included once in each repository, I > > > > guess. This is difficult to achive - I don't have a clue for that. > > > > > > Why not a simple table as first approach? > > > > > > english | french | german | spanish | ... > > > ---------+--------+--------+---------+---- > > > location | .... | ... > > > ... > > > > > > Maybe I am missing something. > > > > no, as a first step it is fine I guess :-). I just thought, people are > > lazy and don't want to get their nessesary translation stuff from > > different URLs or Repositories, but the wiki is great and easy to edit! > > > > maybe a new page called translation_glossary here?: > > http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/twiki/bin/view/GRASS/GrassDocs > > > > if all agree; i would start a table... > > > > regards, > > Otto > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > translations mailing list > > translations@grass.itc.it > > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > > -------------------------------- > Interface WebMail / Magic OnLine > http://www.magic.fr -- GDF Hannover - Solutions for spatial data analysis and remote sensing Office Hannover - Mengendamm 16d - D - 30177 Hannover Internet: www.gdf-hannover.de, Email: info@gdf-hannover.de Phone : ++49.(0)511.39088507, Fax: ++49.(0)511.39088508 From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Thu Feb 2 15:48:19 2006 Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.198]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k12EmId08370 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:48:18 +0100 Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k3so210470ugf for ; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:48:18 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=P77XWBLNyJ8VCaOJ/9DulGPBDg1WxgWtFFYLrYD9thS2n8BCgiIQIOJ4/dr/qe8oAjOrjiD5Nh5XVcKm1ba/qkUJXBSNzzDK2+PjYR/r83K++FBsBc+pqVs/VxgOcU+WnW9c72ZY3GqwTjLpfrqxTi/N5Mj/ZSsTWDhIru0CPw0= Received: by 10.48.233.8 with SMTP id f8mr147188nfh; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 06:48:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.59.18 with HTTP; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:48:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180602020648n4bd860c0h@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 12:48:17 -0200 From: pmarc To: GRASS i18n Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest, Vol 1 #93 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <200602021504.43691.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200602021340.k12DeuiA028733@rio.magic.fr> <200602021504.43691.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k12EmId08370 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > ok, Stephan will be online tomorrow again, so we wait and after we find _the_ > best and easiest solution, we go for it. I think a wiki table would be > reasonable and Markus' idea to connect the table via scripting into the > repositories or maybe even language wise into the latex document :-) sounds > nice to me. > > So we start tomorrow and take the table Eve and JD Guiguère built as the > initial document - ok? That would be nice... something like a standard vocabulary? Did I get it right? -- Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org From eve.red@magic.fr Thu Feb 2 16:05:48 2006 Received: from teheran.magic.fr (teheran.magic.fr [62.210.158.46]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k12F5ld08520 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:05:47 +0100 Received: from rio.magic.fr ([195.154.194.242]) by teheran.magic.fr (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k12F5dW27504; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:05:39 +0100 (CET) Received: from rio.magic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rio.magic.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k12F5fqM014523; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:05:41 +0100 Received: from MoL (apache@localhost) by rio.magic.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id k12F5fwU014522; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:05:41 +0100 Message-Id: <200602021505.k12F5fwU014522@rio.magic.fr> X-Authentication-Warning: rio.magic.fr: apache owned process doing -bs To: Otto Dassau , translations@grass.itc.it, gdf-translation@gdf-hannover.de From: Eve Rousseau Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest, Vol 1 #93 - 1 msg Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:05:41 GMT X-Posting-IP: 83.157.177.3 X-Mailer: Magic OnLine / WebMail V9.32-18 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: (Sorry, I've been messing with this reply/reply all stuff again. I'm concentrating now..! ;) > ok, Stephan will be online tomorrow again, so we wait and after we find _the_ > best and easiest solution, we go for it. I think a wiki table would be > reasonable and Markus' idea to connect the table via scripting into the > repositories or maybe even language wise into the latex document :-) sounds > nice to me. > > So we start tomorrow and take the table Eve and JD Guiguère built as the > initial document - ok? Yes of course Markus idea sounds nice to me too, anyway I trust regarding organisation and team work and tools issues, whatever you set up is always nicer for us translators than working isolated, you know..! I don't know if you can do something with the draft table, but if you can't use it don't worry coz I need to reorganize and update it anyway... Best, Eve -------------------------------- Interface WebMail / Magic OnLine http://www.magic.fr From eve.red@magic.fr Thu Feb 2 16:12:15 2006 Received: from teheran.magic.fr (teheran.magic.fr [62.210.158.46]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k12FCFd08656 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:12:15 +0100 Received: from rio.magic.fr ([195.154.194.242]) by teheran.magic.fr (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k12FC9W28326; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:12:09 +0100 (CET) Received: from rio.magic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rio.magic.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k12FCCTl014838; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:12:12 +0100 Received: from MoL (apache@localhost) by rio.magic.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id k12FCCwp014837; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:12:12 +0100 Message-Id: <200602021512.k12FCCwp014837@rio.magic.fr> X-Authentication-Warning: rio.magic.fr: apache owned process doing -bs To: pmarc , GRASS i18n From: Eve Rousseau Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest, Vol 1 #93 - 1 msg Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:12:12 GMT X-Posting-IP: 83.157.177.3 X-Mailer: Magic OnLine / WebMail V9.32-18 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > That would be nice... something like a standard vocabulary? > Did I get it right? Exactly. So GRASS users can always find the same concepts in their own language (no matter who translated GRASS messages or tutorials), and a correspondance to the original English terms or to other languages, if he reads documentation in foreign languages... @+ -------------------------------- Interface WebMail / Magic OnLine http://www.magic.fr From mihastaut@yahoo.co.uk Thu Feb 2 18:02:22 2006 Received: from web25404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com (web25404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com [217.12.10.138]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id k12H2Kd10057 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 18:02:20 +0100 Received: (qmail 95673 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Feb 2006 16:42:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gxWSN+gRVU9Zd3UHsAXYrP4v0xE/CN28wC/EIJAWrHX4ZESosdYo7/DOeyiGczvdlNhxJCe2HGI9StbBzj2/LmtntMr6896uO23k3YNgEbNY01GKWpAH0IDwAV1h6oX/y0WV9deCkQ/kGJsRO+00ZRAXlNfNzW9R6U6LcJNdwVA= ; Message-ID: <20060202164250.95671.qmail@web25404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.143.76.233] by web25404.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Feb 2006 16:42:50 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:42:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Miha Staut Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest, Vol 1 #93 - 1 msg To: translations@grass.itc.it In-Reply-To: <20060202134151.GH31588@bartok.itc.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --- Markus Neteler wrote: > On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 02:14:14PM +0100, Otto Dassau wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 14:06 schrieb Markus Neteler: > > > On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 12:36:15PM +0100, Otto Dassau wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > > Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:33:36 +0100 > > > > > From: "Laurent C." > > > > > To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it > > > > > Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] GRASS translations to > > > > > Slovene/French/Spanish > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I'm interested for such a glossary. I've read Eve's translation of > > > > > grass in a nutshell. > > > > > Some words haven't the same translation between grasslib, grassmod > and > > > > > nutshell. > > > > > > > > > > I'm ok to use nutshell version (because this is the only complete > > > > > translation) in all the files if every translators agree. > > > > > > > > I agree, we should try to harmonize although it seems to be difficult. > > > > Since we currently work in two repositories cvs (grass.itc) and svn > > > > (GDF), we probably need to find a solution, to develope and keep a > > > > glossary uptodate and make it easy for everybody to contribute and > change > > > > entries. > > > > > > We could use the WIKI. It's very simple to make a table in > > > TWIKI. Later it could become something fancy (e.g. PostGRESQL with > > > pgpPGadmin) > > > > > > > Best solution for translators would be to have one glossary file for > all > > > > currently available languages included once in each repository, I > guess. > > > > This is difficult to achive - I don't have a clue for that. > > > > > > Why not a simple table as first approach? > > > > > > english | french | german | spanish | ... > > > ---------+--------+--------+---------+---- > > > location | .... | ... > > > ... > > > > > > Maybe I am missing something. > > > > no, as a first step it is fine I guess :-). I just thought, people are lazy > > > and don't want to get their nessesary translation stuff from different URLs > > > or Repositories, but the wiki is great and easy to edit! > > sure but for fetching the static version we could, instead of cloning > the glossary everywhere, simply add a "fetch_glossary.sh" script > which used wget to download the page from the WIKI. > > > maybe a new page called translation_glossary here?: > > http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/twiki/bin/view/GRASS/GrassDocs > > > > if all agree; i would start a table... > > Let's go :-) > > Markus OK for me. I must admit though SI lacks quite a lot of translation in the program as well. All best, Miha ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - NEW crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com From dassau@gdf-hannover.de Fri Feb 3 11:11:50 2006 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k13ABod20854 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:11:50 +0100 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 17107F4107; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:11:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from berlin.gdf-hannover.de (p54826EAB.dip.t-dialin.net [84.130.110.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id F010FF4102; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:11:44 +0100 (CET) From: Otto Dassau To: G60 translation list Subject: Re: [GDF-translation] Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest,=?iso-8859-15?q?=09Vol_1_=2393_-_1?= msg Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 11:11:43 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200602021340.k12DeuiA028733@rio.magic.fr> <200602021504.43691.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> <20060203110534.16760730@bambule.gdf-hannover.de> In-Reply-To: <20060203110534.16760730@bambule.gdf-hannover.de> Cc: translations@grass.itc.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200602031111.43503.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on schudra X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k13ABod20854 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Am Freitag, 3. Februar 2006 11:05 schrieb Stephan Holl: > Hello Otto, Eve, ok, then maybe Eve can send me the table offlist and I start to set up a new wiki site with the glossary table. Otto > On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:04:43 +0100 Otto Dassau > > wrote: > > Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 14:40 schrieb Eve Rousseau: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Hi, > > > > > To Laurent : I've seen checked the different translations on GRASS, > > > from Morritz Lennert tutorial, to your work on the GIS software > > > messages, to most recent translations of the GDF Tutorial. Most of > > > the time, I don't think it is a big problem for users as long as we > > > manage to include in the documentation a file stating the > > > correspondances between Location=Secteur, Mapset=Jeu de donnees, > > > etc. > > > > > > To Otto, Markus : I've build such a table with the help of JD > > > Guiguère and discussed about it with Stephan Holl (it's just a > > > draft with English words and French translations - and I could also > > > add Spanish translations, from the 'nutshell' translated by G. > > > Martinez). > > From my point of view the table has a good structure which could be > used. > Discussed already with Eve I thopugh of installing a web-based tool > which handles the translations onside the glossary. I have found a tool > which looks quite promissing, but I have not yet tested it in > deep[1]. > > > > As a simple translation tool, it's fine I think - and > > > the wiki (or the GDF subversion server maybe) would be a could > > > place for it. Later we could think of adding small english defs? > > > Stephan had found something more elaborate as a technical solution, > > > but I let you guys discuss about it since it's a lot of work > > > setting up something new and since we already have many > > > collaborative tools available here... :) > > > > ok, Stephan will be online tomorrow again, so we wait and after we > > find _the_ best and easiest solution, we go for it. I think a wiki > > table would be reasonable and Markus' idea to connect the table via > > scripting into the repositories or maybe even language wise into the > > latex document :-) sounds nice to me. > > WIKI is always a good idea, it is already there, everybody can register > and just start to fill up the glossary. > > > So we start tomorrow and take the table Eve and JD Guiguère built as > > the initial document - ok? > > Sounds good.. > > > > > Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 14:06 schrieb Markus Neteler: > > > > > On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 12:36:15PM +0100, Otto Dassau wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:33:36 +0100 > > > > > > > From: "Laurent C." > > > > > > > To: Markus Neteler , > > > > > > > translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] > > > > > > > GRASS translations to Slovene/French/Spanish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > I'm interested for such a glossary. I've read Eve's > > > > > > > translation of grass in a nutshell. > > > > > > > Some words haven't the same translation between grasslib, > > > > > > > grassmod and nutshell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ok to use nutshell version (because this is the only > > > > > > > complete translation) in all the files if every translators > > > > > > > agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree, we should try to harmonize although it seems to be > > > > > > difficult. Since we currently work in two repositories cvs > > > > > > (grass.itc) and svn (GDF), we probably need to find a > > > > > > solution, to develope and keep a glossary uptodate and make > > > > > > it easy for everybody to contribute and change entries. > > > > > > > > > > We could use the WIKI. It's very simple to make a table in > > > > > TWIKI. Later it could become something fancy (e.g. PostGRESQL > > > > > with pgpPGadmin) > > > > > > > > > > > Best solution for translators would be to have one glossary > > > > > > file for all currently available languages included once in > > > > > > each repository, I guess. This is difficult to achive - I > > > > > > don't have a clue for that. > > > > > > > > > > Why not a simple table as first approach? > > > > > > > > > > english | french | german | spanish | ... > > > > > ---------+--------+--------+---------+---- > > > > > location | .... | ... > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am missing something. > > > > > > > > no, as a first step it is fine I guess :-). I just thought, > > > > people are lazy and don't want to get their nessesary translation > > > > stuff from different URLs or Repositories, but the wiki is great > > > > and easy to edit! > > > > > > > > maybe a new page called translation_glossary here?: > > > > http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/twiki/bin/view/GRASS/GrassDocs > > > > > > > > if all agree; i would start a table... > > Best > Stephan > > > [1] http://www.webbysoft.com/babelkit -- GDF Hannover - Solutions for spatial data analysis and remote sensing Office Hannover - Mengendamm 16d - D - 30177 Hannover Internet: www.gdf-hannover.de, Email: info@gdf-hannover.de Phone : ++49.(0)511.39088507, Fax: ++49.(0)511.39088508 From dassau@gdf-hannover.de Fri Feb 3 12:02:08 2006 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k13B28d21071 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:02:08 +0100 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id D0A30F4106; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:02:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from berlin.gdf-hannover.de (p54826EAB.dip.t-dialin.net [84.130.110.171]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4566F4106; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:02:06 +0100 (CET) From: Otto Dassau To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GDF-translation] Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest,=?iso-8859-15?q?=09Vol_1_=2393_-_1?= msg Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 12:02:04 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.8 References: <200602021340.k12DeuiA028733@rio.magic.fr> <20060203110534.16760730@bambule.gdf-hannover.de> <200602031111.43503.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> In-Reply-To: <200602031111.43503.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> Cc: G60 translation list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200602031202.04990.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on schudra X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k13B28d21071 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Am Freitag, 3. Februar 2006 11:11 schrieb Otto Dassau: > Am Freitag, 3. Februar 2006 11:05 schrieb Stephan Holl: > > Hello Otto, Eve, > > ok, then maybe Eve can send me the table offlist and I start to set up a > new wiki site with the glossary table. you find a first table here: http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/twiki/bin/view/GRASS/GrassTranslationGlossary Otto > > On Thu, 2 Feb 2006 15:04:43 +0100 Otto Dassau > > > > wrote: > > > Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 14:40 schrieb Eve Rousseau: > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > To Laurent : I've seen checked the different translations on GRASS, > > > > from Morritz Lennert tutorial, to your work on the GIS software > > > > messages, to most recent translations of the GDF Tutorial. Most of > > > > the time, I don't think it is a big problem for users as long as we > > > > manage to include in the documentation a file stating the > > > > correspondances between Location=Secteur, Mapset=Jeu de donnees, > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > To Otto, Markus : I've build such a table with the help of JD > > > > Guiguère and discussed about it with Stephan Holl (it's just a > > > > draft with English words and French translations - and I could also > > > > add Spanish translations, from the 'nutshell' translated by G. > > > > Martinez). > > > > From my point of view the table has a good structure which could be > > used. > > Discussed already with Eve I thopugh of installing a web-based tool > > which handles the translations onside the glossary. I have found a tool > > which looks quite promissing, but I have not yet tested it in > > deep[1]. > > > > > > As a simple translation tool, it's fine I think - and > > > > the wiki (or the GDF subversion server maybe) would be a could > > > > place for it. Later we could think of adding small english defs? > > > > Stephan had found something more elaborate as a technical solution, > > > > but I let you guys discuss about it since it's a lot of work > > > > setting up something new and since we already have many > > > > collaborative tools available here... :) > > > > > > ok, Stephan will be online tomorrow again, so we wait and after we > > > find _the_ best and easiest solution, we go for it. I think a wiki > > > table would be reasonable and Markus' idea to connect the table via > > > scripting into the repositories or maybe even language wise into the > > > latex document :-) sounds nice to me. > > > > WIKI is always a good idea, it is already there, everybody can register > > and just start to fill up the glossary. > > > > > So we start tomorrow and take the table Eve and JD Guiguère built as > > > the initial document - ok? > > > > Sounds good.. > > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, 2. Februar 2006 14:06 schrieb Markus Neteler: > > > > > > On Thu, Feb 02, 2006 at 12:36:15PM +0100, Otto Dassau wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 1 > > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:33:36 +0100 > > > > > > > > From: "Laurent C." > > > > > > > > To: Markus Neteler , > > > > > > > > translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] > > > > > > > > GRASS translations to Slovene/French/Spanish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > I'm interested for such a glossary. I've read Eve's > > > > > > > > translation of grass in a nutshell. > > > > > > > > Some words haven't the same translation between grasslib, > > > > > > > > grassmod and nutshell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm ok to use nutshell version (because this is the only > > > > > > > > complete translation) in all the files if every translators > > > > > > > > agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I agree, we should try to harmonize although it seems to be > > > > > > > difficult. Since we currently work in two repositories cvs > > > > > > > (grass.itc) and svn (GDF), we probably need to find a > > > > > > > solution, to develope and keep a glossary uptodate and make > > > > > > > it easy for everybody to contribute and change entries. > > > > > > > > > > > > We could use the WIKI. It's very simple to make a table in > > > > > > TWIKI. Later it could become something fancy (e.g. PostGRESQL > > > > > > with pgpPGadmin) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best solution for translators would be to have one glossary > > > > > > > file for all currently available languages included once in > > > > > > > each repository, I guess. This is difficult to achive - I > > > > > > > don't have a clue for that. > > > > > > > > > > > > Why not a simple table as first approach? > > > > > > > > > > > > english | french | german | spanish | ... > > > > > > ---------+--------+--------+---------+---- > > > > > > location | .... | ... > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe I am missing something. > > > > > > > > > > no, as a first step it is fine I guess :-). I just thought, > > > > > people are lazy and don't want to get their nessesary translation > > > > > stuff from different URLs or Repositories, but the wiki is great > > > > > and easy to edit! > > > > > > > > > > maybe a new page called translation_glossary here?: > > > > > http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/twiki/bin/view/GRASS/GrassDocs > > > > > > > > > > if all agree; i would start a table... > > > > Best > > Stephan > > > > > > [1] http://www.webbysoft.com/babelkit -- GDF Hannover - Solutions for spatial data analysis and remote sensing Office Hannover - Mengendamm 16d - D - 30177 Hannover Internet: www.gdf-hannover.de, Email: info@gdf-hannover.de Phone : ++49.(0)511.39088507, Fax: ++49.(0)511.39088508 From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Fri Feb 3 13:15:06 2006 Received: from uproxy.gmail.com (uproxy.gmail.com [66.249.92.200]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k13CF5d21382 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 13:15:05 +0100 Received: by uproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id k3so221224ugf for ; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:15:05 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=fnKoUnc4dbs3iU2W7N1EPRqD42MxmkuyVCRsjZDeNpgxrrjmjewWzVUFqZ3DWBJqayYMpBD17O9xsOlNE5cMzAhcs1imlow359MXzvMNrSSR3rcDeZlnakP/Jq/z7NIsDAlP2sQ+pFqNK/TYjtfw2WTIuHMp51EOlGLYMGsb/pE= Received: by 10.48.244.4 with SMTP id r4mr466478nfh; Fri, 03 Feb 2006 04:15:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.59.18 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Feb 2006 04:15:04 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180602030415h562ee9ccx@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 10:15:04 -0200 From: pmarc To: GRASS i18n Subject: Re: [GDF-translation] Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations digest, Vol 1 #93 - 1 msg In-Reply-To: <200602031202.04990.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline References: <200602021340.k12DeuiA028733@rio.magic.fr> <20060203110534.16760730@bambule.gdf-hannover.de> <200602031111.43503.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> <200602031202.04990.dassau@gdf-hannover.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k13CF5d21382 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > you find a first table here: > http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/twiki/bin/view/GRASS/GrassTranslationGlossary Would it be nice to notify people at the GRASSLIST, so they can conntribute/consult this table??? []s -- Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org From neteler@itc.it Wed Feb 15 09:47:17 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k1F8lEd25027 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:47:14 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1F8l9UC029727; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:47:09 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k1F8l9eH025889; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:47:09 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k1F8l9uQ025880; Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:47:09 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:47:09 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: nilarcs Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20060215084709.GA5253@bartok.itc.it> References: <776a71630602142305l7bfe1ecdv@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <776a71630602142305l7bfe1ecdv@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: Simplified Chinese translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Hi Zhang Jun, thanks for your submission! I have uploaded your translations to CVS. Next Saturday updated statistics will be visible here: http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php#statistics Markus On Wed, Feb 15, 2006 at 03:05:54PM +0800, nilarcs wrote: > hi Markus, > > please check the diff file. > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Zhang Jun From guy.duplaa@wanadoo.fr Sun Feb 19 17:58:05 2006 Received: from smtp6.wanadoo.fr (smtp6.wanadoo.fr [193.252.22.25]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k1JGw5d13750 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:58:05 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0604.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id E1ECB1C001DA for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:57:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.0.2] (AMarseille-252-1-100-198.w86-209.abo.wanadoo.fr [86.209.35.198]) by mwinf0604.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id B41651C001CF for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:57:58 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060219165758737.B41651C001CF@mwinf0604.wanadoo.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v746.2) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: translations@grass.itc.it From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Guy_Dupl=E0a?= Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 17:58:00 +0100 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.746.2) Subject: [GRASS translations] grasslibs_fr.po 1.14 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Bonghjiorno from Corsica I want to help you in french translation but i don't really understand the way you work and i don't want to waste your time. So: Am i at the right adress? Can i copy/paste parts of the file and propose a translation? Copy all the file ? Can i propose translation's corrections of what is already translated? With comments? I am a user of Geoconcept Gis since 6 years but i am NOT a programmer... Thank you for answering Guy From lrntct@gmail.com Sun Feb 19 18:45:22 2006 Received: from smtp1-g19.free.fr (smtp1-g19.free.fr [212.27.42.27]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k1JHjLd14027 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:45:21 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.10] (mar21-1-82-225-170-6.fbx.proxad.net [82.225.170.6]) by smtp1-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD256E4C2 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:45:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <43F8AEBE.6000501@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:45:34 +0100 From: "Laurent C." User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (X11/20060112) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] grasslibs_fr.po 1.14 References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Guy Duplàa wrote: > Bonghjiorno from Corsica > I want to help you in french translation but i don't really understand > the way you work and i don't want to waste your time. So: > Am i at the right adress? > Can i copy/paste parts of the file and propose a translation? Copy all > the file ? > Can i propose translation's corrections of what is already translated? > With comments? > > I am a user of Geoconcept Gis since 6 years but i am NOT a programmer... > > Thank you for answering > > Guy > > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > Hi, First step is to download the *.po from cvs : http://freegis.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/grass6/locale/po/ Edit it with a po editor like kbabel or poedit and send the result of your work to a commiter. You can take a look to the glossary : http://grass.gdf-hannover.de/twiki/bin/view/GRASS/GrassTranslationGlossary Grassmod should be updated to comply with it. Good luck :) Laurent From translaterus@yahoo.com Thu Mar 2 20:44:39 2006 Received: from web37612.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web37612.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.87.95]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id k22Jicd05988 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 20:44:39 +0100 Received: (qmail 16792 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Mar 2006 19:44:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=kjw10cJVw2PjI3XSM7rDJfWwQZT9FiL0Qs7+HhNxswD41w1UDIwMHteDR3U3T9kbv9I5Ate0Dp/s9m2mj8erCFubieW0h/WlVfnViyipWSfuuUqWxZ9Enrg7k29/Vx4Vztr0DgOMh/DNf9vsGqrp8aLw+DiGm1DKkvOy3ZWmJZ8= ; Message-ID: <20060302194433.16790.qmail@web37612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.123.130.74] by web37612.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 11:44:32 PST Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:44:32 -0800 (PST) From: Yulia Olson To: translations@grass.itc.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-848131665-1141328672=:16742" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: [GRASS translations] russian translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: --0-848131665-1141328672=:16742 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi! I would like to donate a Russian translation. Is anyone currently working on it? If so, let's divide the work. Also, I am using poEdit to look at the existing po files I downloaded off CVS, and for some reason the cyrillic characters are not readable. What encoding is currently used for the russian po files? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. --0-848131665-1141328672=:16742 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
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New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. --0-848131665-1141328672=:16742-- From evyscr@murom.net Thu Mar 2 21:49:34 2006 Received: from ns1.murom.ru (mail.murom.net [213.177.124.17]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k22KnXd08794 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2006 21:49:33 +0100 Received: from [172.17.9.2] (helo=ven.clnet.murom.net) by ns1.murom.ru with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1FEujn-0002t3-RD for translations@grass.itc.it; Thu, 02 Mar 2006 23:49:27 +0300 Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2006 23:50:53 +0300 From: Egor Vyscrebentsov To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] russian translation Message-ID: <20060302235053.56faf54f@ven.clnet.murom.net> In-Reply-To: <20060302194433.16790.qmail@web37612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20060302194433.16790.qmail@web37612.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.15cvs14 (GTK+ 2.8.7; i586-alt-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Thu, 2 Mar 2006 11:44:32 -0800 (PST) Yulia Olson wrote: > Hi! I would like to donate a Russian translation. Is anyone currently > working on it? If so, let's divide the work. I was hope to start work on ru.po actively from beginning of the year, but it seems that I could help only from April. > Also, I am using poEdit > to look at the existing po files I downloaded off CVS, and for some > reason the cyrillic characters are not readable. What encoding is > currently used for the russian po files? UTF-8 is used now. I'm not sure would koi8-r be better or worse. -- Thanks, evyscr From holl@gdf-hannover.de Fri Mar 3 12:00:01 2006 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k23B01d09655 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:00:01 +0100 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 65FC2F4203; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:00:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from bambule.gdf-hannover.de (p548248C3.dip.t-dialin.net [84.130.72.195]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD70F4102 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:59:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:59:55 +0100 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20060303115955.12f50a25@bambule.gdf-hannover.de> Organization: GDF Hannover X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.0.0cvs83 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: )L?KeU|=aRNBCROll:Awd[0~o:q+Q>y$DT%FjhM#::>IPZ}+gxEH`}vT3PP3~AKTK0ZpL$$ wu9iR]5^I[.Q4c! X-Homepage: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/ X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on schudra X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.7 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.3 Subject: [GRASS translations] Updated french translation Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Dear i18N-GRASS-users, thanks to Eve Rousseau (aka phyto) for updating the french grassmods-file. it is committed to CVS now and will appear on the statistics-table[1] next week. Which language will win?! :-=) Best Stephan [1] http://grass.itc.it/devel/i18n.php#statistics -- GDF Hannover - Solutions for spatial data analysis and remote sensing Hannover Office - Mengendamm 16d - D-30177 Hannover Internet: www.gdf-hannover.de - Email: holl@gdf-hannover.de Phone : ++49-(0)511.39088507 - Fax: ++49-(0)511.39088508 From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Fri Mar 3 15:10:45 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.205]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k23EAid19094 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:10:44 +0100 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id g2so462203nfe for ; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 06:10:44 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=aVyzqPLg8fLFqojZH+LN/+RP59vd5OQBbdgbpyu9C03sXHDmC3E1IP/N2mlq2yDyKFymLBs9ZPsIxdMclcJPh+4B10SRWMB32UHkgx446ApgtmceOTmEhS1QwkjCsh5M26PSGyTMdBUQJJFbdaC6IROdxBXsqEUO4QcSJM4526g= Received: by 10.48.213.18 with SMTP id l18mr1140414nfg; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 06:10:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.63.14 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 06:10:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180603030610i8c2a085u@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 11:10:44 -0300 From: pmarc To: "GRASS i18n" Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Updated french translation In-Reply-To: <20060303115955.12f50a25@bambule.gdf-hannover.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060303115955.12f50a25@bambule.gdf-hannover.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k23EAid19094 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: 2006/3/3, Stephan Holl : > > Which language will win?! :-=) I (portuguese) am lagging, because in order for me to move faster, I would have to internationaliz(s)e the code, not just localiz(s)e. I am still trying to convince myself to do that. -- Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org From neteler@itc.it Fri Mar 3 15:19:49 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k23EJnd19830 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:19:49 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k23EJh8I003689; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:19:43 +0100 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k23EJhXC031118; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:19:43 +0100 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k23EJhYr031117; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:19:43 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 15:19:43 +0100 From: Markus Neteler To: pmarc Cc: GRASS i18n Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Updated french translation Message-ID: <20060303141943.GC30055@bartok.itc.it> References: <20060303115955.12f50a25@bambule.gdf-hannover.de> <9fd2d2180603030610i8c2a085u@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d2180603030610i8c2a085u@mail.gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: On Fri, Mar 03, 2006 at 11:10:44AM -0300, pmarc wrote: > 2006/3/3, Stephan Holl : > > > > > Which language will win?! :-=) > > I (portuguese) am lagging, because in order for me to move faster, I > would have to internationaliz(s)e the code, not just localiz(s)e. can you elaborate on that? Are macros missing in commands important for you? Markus > I am still trying to convince myself to do that. > -- > Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX > -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) > Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Fri Mar 3 17:37:49 2006 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com (nproxy.gmail.com [64.233.182.203]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k23Gbnd26899 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 17:37:49 +0100 Received: by nproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id n29so485239nfc for ; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:37:49 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WLiytZ+aqJZZwN+oGrhGFtHWRAU2bwBrU1qMx7Di+2iFmPN6YYN3lhWU77qUBvsIKgpPr/5oRFcpRORnhiwC+0eVN7mBGfD4255EICd2s4kHCp0TbfSc1YEpab0xnwEPHsmgiR6PPBKonY3sjpC6yOLmUl0tg5NWKcXyc09M1RY= Received: by 10.48.232.9 with SMTP id e9mr1185667nfh; Fri, 03 Mar 2006 08:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.49.63.14 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Mar 2006 08:37:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180603030837j277bdcf5t@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 13:37:48 -0300 From: pmarc To: "GRASS i18n" Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Updated french translation In-Reply-To: <20060303141943.GC30055@bartok.itc.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060303115955.12f50a25@bambule.gdf-hannover.de> <9fd2d2180603030610i8c2a085u@mail.gmail.com> <20060303141943.GC30055@bartok.itc.it> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by grass.itc.it id k23Gbnd26899 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: > can you elaborate on that? Are macros missing in commands > important for you? It's just that you mentioned a while ago that GRASS translation was around 50% completed, and I was planning to help improve that... I didn't dig into code i18n... I'm still mustering the courage... -- Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org From neteler@itc.it Fri Mar 31 10:08:24 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id k2V88Od08000 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:08:24 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k2V88JAh018729; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:08:19 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k2V88i1S024955; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:08:44 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k2V88iiK024954; Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:08:44 +0200 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:08:44 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: nieart Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20060331080843.GN28336@bartok.itc.it> References: <442CD206.5070609@interia.pl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <442CD206.5070609@interia.pl> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: polish translation v.2 Sender: translations-admin@grass.itc.it Errors-To: translations-admin@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Translation of GRASS (i18N) List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Thanks, Artur, I have updated the messages in CVS. Markus On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 08:53:58AM +0200, nieart wrote: > Hallo! > I would like to send you 2-nd version of the polish translation (about > 1096 messages in grassmods.po). Unfortunately I'm not able to make difs > file of it and I have to send you the whole file.I need some advice how > to do that. > There are no other translators among polish users so far. > > Best regards, > > > Artur Niescior From neteler@itc.it Wed May 17 21:01:54 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4HJ1spr006946 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:01:54 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4HJ1sCJ004009 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:01:54 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4HJ1sqe006775 for ; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:01:54 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k4HJ1seb006773 for translations@grass.itc.it; Wed, 17 May 2006 21:01:54 +0200 Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:01:54 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20060517190154.GD15691@bartok.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] Messages update - please submit now X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:01:54 -0000 Hi, I want to update all .po files in CVS to merge in new messages. Please submit now any changes which need to be updated previously - say, please send your work which is not yet in CVS. thanks Markus -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k4N8lap5023913 for translations@grass.itc.it; Tue, 23 May 2006 10:47:36 +0200 Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:47:36 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20060523084736.GA22088@bartok.itc.it> References: <20060517190154.GD15691@bartok.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060517190154.GD15691@bartok.itc.it> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: Messages update - please submit now X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 08:47:36 -0000 Hi, I have updated all .po files in CVS now. There are new grasstcl_*.po files which contain the translations of messages from the TclTk interface. Probably the auto-translate feature is helpful (offered by kbabel and maybe others). In the mid run I hope to install a web based translation system here to simplify parallel translations - if that's of interest. Best Markus On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:01:54PM +0200, Markus Neteler wrote: > Hi, > > I want to update all .po files in CVS to merge > in new messages. Please submit now any changes which > need to be updated previously - say, please send > your work which is not yet in CVS. > > thanks > > Markus > -- > Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it > ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica > MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis > Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From holl@gdf-hannover.de Tue May 23 11:05:24 2006 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4N95NkB003271 for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 11:05:24 +0200 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id D3407F4142; Tue, 23 May 2006 11:05:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from butan.gdf-hannover.de (p548250E3.dip.t-dialin.net [84.130.80.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194FCF413E for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 11:05:02 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 11:05:01 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20060523110501.110920c5@butan.gdf-hannover.de> In-Reply-To: <200605230848.k4N8m8HY002442@grass.itc.it> References: <200605230848.k4N8m8HY002442@grass.itc.it> Organization: GDF Hannover X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.0cvs1 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: )L?KeU|=aRNBCROll:Awd[0~o:q+Q>y$DT%FjhM#::>IPZ}+gxEH`}vT3PP3~AKTK0ZpL$$ wu9iR]5^I[.Q4c! X-Homepage: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/ X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on schudra X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.3 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: translations Digest, Vol 1, Issue 101 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:05:24 -0000 Hello Markus, Damn digest mode. I have not seen your posting for comitting all po-files before your commit. So probably some of my german translations not-yet-committed are gone. Never mind. Perhaps I should get non-digest-emails on this ML. Stephan -- GDF Hannover - Solutions for spatial data analysis and remote sensing Hannover Office - Mengendamm 16d - D-30177 Hannover Internet: www.gdf-hannover.de - Email: holl@gdf-hannover.de Phone : ++49-(0)511.39088507 - Fax: ++49-(0)511.39088508 From neteler@itc.it Tue May 23 11:41:18 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4N9fIQH003560 for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 11:41:18 +0200 Received: from ntmail.itc.it (ntmail [10.0.10.50]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4N9fIRZ002611 for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 11:41:18 +0200 Received: from [10.40.0.190] ([10.40.0.190]) by ntmail.itc.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 23 May 2006 11:41:18 +0200 Message-ID: <4472D8BE.404@itc.it> Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 11:41:18 +0200 From: Markus Neteler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephan Holl Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations Digest, Vol 1, Issue 101 References: <200605230848.k4N8m8HY002442@grass.itc.it> <20060523110501.110920c5@butan.gdf-hannover.de> In-Reply-To: <20060523110501.110920c5@butan.gdf-hannover.de> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 OpenPGP: url=http://mpa.itc.it/markus/markus_gpgkey.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2006 09:41:18.0250 (UTC) FILETIME=[0AA058A0:01C67E4D] X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: translations@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:41:19 -0000 Stephan Holl wrote: >Hello Markus, > >Damn digest mode. I have not seen your posting for comitting all >po-files before your commit. So probably some of my german translations >not-yet-committed are gone. > > No worries. We can easily reconstruct it. Just send me your uncommitted .po file(s). >Never mind. > >Perhaps I should get non-digest-emails on this ML. > > I was waiting a couple of days. The settings are "Should a digest be dispatched daily when the size threshold isn't reached? Yes." in Mailman. Probably due to the list transition to a new machine this failed for the first digest. Sorry 'bout that! But I am sure that we can fix the problem. Markus From holl@gdf-hannover.de Tue May 23 11:51:02 2006 Received: from schudra.gdf-hannover.de (gdf-hannover.de [213.133.123.148]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4N9p1hH003668 for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 11:51:01 +0200 Received: by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix, from userid 1006) id 493A1F413A; Tue, 23 May 2006 11:51:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from butan.gdf-hannover.de (p548250E3.dip.t-dialin.net [84.130.80.227]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by schudra.gdf-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4EC9F4138; Tue, 23 May 2006 11:50:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 11:50:53 +0200 From: Stephan Holl To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations Digest, Vol 1, Issue 101 Message-ID: <20060523115053.36629a78@butan.gdf-hannover.de> In-Reply-To: <4472D8BE.404@itc.it> References: <200605230848.k4N8m8HY002442@grass.itc.it> <20060523110501.110920c5@butan.gdf-hannover.de> <4472D8BE.404@itc.it> Organization: GDF Hannover X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.2.0cvs1 (GTK+ 2.6.4; i686-pc-linux-gnu) X-Face: )L?KeU|=aRNBCROll:Awd[0~o:q+Q>y$DT%FjhM#::>IPZ}+gxEH`}vT3PP3~AKTK0ZpL$$ wu9iR]5^I[.Q4c! X-Homepage: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/ X-Operating-System: Debian GNU/Linux X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/holl/pgp_pubkey.asc Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on schudra X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=3.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL autolearn=no version=3.0.3 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 09:51:02 -0000 Hello Markus, On Tue, 23 May 2006 11:41:18 +0200 Markus Neteler wrote: > Stephan Holl wrote: > > >Hello Markus, > > > >Damn digest mode. I have not seen your posting for comitting all > >po-files before your commit. So probably some of my german > >translations not-yet-committed are gone. > > > > > No worries. We can easily reconstruct it. Just send me your > uncommitted .po file(s). No problem. I will recheck when the maschine is at hand -> tonight. > >Never mind. > > > >Perhaps I should get non-digest-emails on this ML. > > > > > > I was waiting a couple of days. The settings are > "Should a digest be dispatched daily when the size threshold isn't > reached? Yes." > in Mailman. Probably due to the list transition to a new machine this > failed for > the first digest. Sorry 'bout that! > > But I am sure that we can fix the problem. Yes, me too :-) Best Stephan -- GDF Hannover - Solutions for spatial data analysis and remote sensing Hannover Office - Mengendamm 16d - D-30177 Hannover Internet: www.gdf-hannover.de - Email: holl@gdf-hannover.de Phone : ++49-(0)511.39088507 - Fax: ++49-(0)511.39088508 From neteler@itc.it Tue May 23 15:52:35 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4NDqZTO005260 for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:52:35 +0200 Received: from ntmail.itc.it (ntmail [10.0.10.50]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k4NDqYEi007208 for ; Tue, 23 May 2006 15:52:34 +0200 Received: from [10.40.0.190] ([10.40.0.190]) by ntmail.itc.it with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 23 May 2006 15:52:34 +0200 Message-ID: <447313A2.9040703@itc.it> Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 15:52:34 +0200 From: Markus Neteler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7-1.4.1 (X11/20050929) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Stephan Holl Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Re: translations Digest, Vol 1, Issue 101 References: <200605230848.k4N8m8HY002442@grass.itc.it> <20060523110501.110920c5@butan.gdf-hannover.de> <4472D8BE.404@itc.it> In-Reply-To: <4472D8BE.404@itc.it> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.93.0.0 OpenPGP: url=http://mpa.itc.it/markus/markus_gpgkey.asc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 May 2006 13:52:34.0364 (UTC) FILETIME=[24B0C7C0:01C67E70] X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: translations@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:52:35 -0000 Markus Neteler wrote: >Stephan Holl wrote: > > > >>Hello Markus, >> >>Damn digest mode. I have not seen your posting for comitting all >>po-files before your commit. So probably some of my german translations >>not-yet-committed are gone. >> >> >> >> >No worries. We can easily reconstruct it. Just send me your uncommitted >.po file(s). > OK, I have reverted the *_de.po changes in CVS. You should be able to generate the diffs now. If possible, maybe you could merge the new messages already into and send the the entire update? If you are unsure how to do that, I can also do that. Hope this helps, Markus From daniel.victoria@gmail.com Wed May 31 19:37:35 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.187]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4VHbZs1012478 for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 19:37:35 +0200 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id x30so146547nfb for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 10:37:35 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=IvyeGL6Th7t5++vj35kQ0sv9lVDPnoxgAaqAlIcmhFLutuGYkobQnbiLSHkg6EziNJkiaiggFL8IVx15N998fGjRhAf6lm1bgyclCf2ZTUQHTkOCRXhomVdXrvecWubvGf/rBKBk/QoFng9q7ZxIqmbhHuhkp802660EDvugLEI= Received: by 10.49.18.4 with SMTP id v4mr515030nfi; Wed, 31 May 2006 10:37:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.216.2 with HTTP; Wed, 31 May 2006 10:37:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 14:37:35 -0300 From: "Daniel Victoria" To: translations@grass.itc.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] New translator X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 17:37:35 -0000 Hi All, I talked to Paulo Marcondes (pmarc) about helping him out with the Portuguese (Brazilian) translation of GRASS and we where wondering, are there any tips/trick for two persons to work on the same language? How do people coordinate such things? Thanks Daniel From eve.red@magic.fr Wed May 31 22:37:44 2006 Received: from rio.magic.fr ([195.154.194.242]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4VKbi85014792 for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 22:37:44 +0200 Received: from rio.magic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rio.magic.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4VKbh0G029930; Wed, 31 May 2006 22:37:43 +0200 Received: from MoL (apache@localhost) by rio.magic.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id k4VKbhTW029929; Wed, 31 May 2006 22:37:43 +0200 Message-Id: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> X-Authentication-Warning: rio.magic.fr: apache owned process doing -bs To: , translations@grass.itc.it From: Eve Rousseau Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] New translator Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:37:43 GMT X-Posting-IP: 83.157.176.23 X-Mailer: Magic OnLine / WebMail V9.32-18 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:37:45 -0000 Good evening Daniel, > I talked to Paulo Marcondes (pmarc) about helping him out with the > Portuguese (Brazilian) translation of GRASS and we where wondering, > are there any tips/trick for two persons to work on the same language? > How do people coordinate such things? You can split work on files : one working on grasslibs, the other on grassmods (or maybe between type of messages : fuzzy translations/untranslated). The main constraint is time available - most often, translators don't work simultaneously (every other week/month/etc.) ... Therefore, the rule is always : 1) commit early 2) commit often Hope this helps. -------------------------------- Interface WebMail / Magic OnLine http://www.magic.fr From daniel.victoria@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 01:46:55 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.185]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k4VNksgJ016937 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 01:46:55 +0200 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id g2so278279nfe for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 16:46:54 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=jVJbX+eczzXYIhISP+ELVAeNamSACjIJNJl72TDgq4qlnT79T763EZuuxv3Rqx02fLg4ulYTABE5xkPs5JOdyjpDG25rKvXkNl7Cy6LVsIbIiV8EU8IblluFTcd3NejMmMmDk4ik6ski+GmSGZ7yDDeapNyeNfnzlm1vdGvdLIk= Received: by 10.48.248.14 with SMTP id v14mr713050nfh; Wed, 31 May 2006 16:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.216.2 with HTTP; Wed, 31 May 2006 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 20:46:53 -0300 From: "Daniel Victoria" To: "Eve Rousseau" Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] New translator In-Reply-To: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: translations@grass.itc.it X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 23:46:55 -0000 Hi Eve, So let me see if I got this straight. In order for 2 persons to work on the translation we either work on separate files or check out the files from CVS, translate some lines, and send it back, all in the same "work shift"? Also, I just downloaded from CVS and tried to follow the instructions but for some reason the compiler is not working on my machine and I can't issue the command make pot. So my question is, what if I just go straight to the locale/po file and start working with the .po files in there? Will that work? Cheers daniel On 5/31/06, Eve Rousseau wrote: > Good evening Daniel, > > > I talked to Paulo Marcondes (pmarc) about helping him out with the > > Portuguese (Brazilian) translation of GRASS and we where wondering, > > are there any tips/trick for two persons to work on the same language? > > How do people coordinate such things? > > You can split work on files : one working on grasslibs, the other on grassmods > (or maybe between type of messages : fuzzy translations/untranslated). > > The main constraint is time available - most often, translators don't work > simultaneously (every other week/month/etc.) ... Therefore, the rule is always : > 1) commit early > 2) commit often > > Hope this > helps. > > > -------------------------------- > Interface WebMail / Magic OnLine > http://www.magic.fr > > > From glynn@gclements.plus.com Thu Jun 1 02:54:12 2006 Received: from cerise.gclements.plus.com (82-71-30-52.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk [82.71.30.52]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k510sBBh017741 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 02:54:12 +0200 Received: from cerise.gclements.plus.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cerise.gclements.plus.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id k510sAnv008785; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 01:54:10 +0100 Received: (from glynn@localhost) by cerise.gclements.plus.com (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k510sALM008782; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 01:54:10 +0100 From: Glynn Clements MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <17534.15026.234234.503236@cerise.gclements.plus.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 01:54:10 +0100 To: "Daniel Victoria" Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] New translator In-Reply-To: References: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> X-Mailer: VM 7.07 under 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" XEmacs Lucid X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: translations@grass.itc.it, Eve Rousseau X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 00:54:12 -0000 Daniel Victoria wrote: > So let me see if I got this straight. In order for 2 persons to work > on the translation we either work on separate files or check out the > files from CVS, translate some lines, and send it back, all in the > same "work shift"? Ideally. CVS won't allow you to commit your changes if another version has been committed since you last updated your working copy. Instead, you have to merge the changes into your working copy first. If the changes affect the portion of the file which you have modified, this will result in a conflict, which you have to resolve manually. The shorter the interval between the update and the commit, the less likely that someone else will have committed another version inbetween, so the less chance of a conflict occurring. -- Glynn Clements From daniel.victoria@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 03:13:15 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k511DFC4017798 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 03:13:15 +0200 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so296311nfc for ; Wed, 31 May 2006 18:13:14 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=cjfN2vG/87qBk/OtjaCxl/ls1d5NimiA9kmWD/UlJAz2it9ufcWaLt/JmwusxEye7IoIzKIR/FIEkrbdqEwXNUugdnvAX6w0mpk2hONKDnLYDp7SQPwgnQVsJtUq34NXhAAQeKSFyq/hpigUQ+4i/tMPTBmmA7Uvd2Ctdobee5Q= Received: by 10.49.67.7 with SMTP id u7mr55216nfk; Wed, 31 May 2006 18:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.216.2 with HTTP; Wed, 31 May 2006 18:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 22:13:14 -0300 From: "Daniel Victoria" To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] New translator In-Reply-To: <17534.15026.234234.503236@cerise.gclements.plus.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> <17534.15026.234234.503236@cerise.gclements.plus.com> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 01:13:15 -0000 Great, now i understand how CVS works. thanks Glynn. What I think I'll do is coordinate with pmarc and each one of us can work on a different file so thing wont get messy Thanks again Daniel On 5/31/06, Glynn Clements wrote: > > Daniel Victoria wrote: > > > So let me see if I got this straight. In order for 2 persons to work > > on the translation we either work on separate files or check out the > > files from CVS, translate some lines, and send it back, all in the > > same "work shift"? > > Ideally. > > CVS won't allow you to commit your changes if another version has been > committed since you last updated your working copy. Instead, you have > to merge the changes into your working copy first. If the changes > affect the portion of the file which you have modified, this will > result in a conflict, which you have to resolve manually. > > The shorter the interval between the update and the commit, the less > likely that someone else will have committed another version > inbetween, so the less chance of a conflict occurring. > > -- > Glynn Clements > From eve.red@magic.fr Thu Jun 1 10:58:10 2006 Received: from rio.magic.fr ([195.154.194.242]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k518wAan022193 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:58:10 +0200 Received: from rio.magic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rio.magic.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k518w9w1002605; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:58:09 +0200 Received: from MoL (apache@localhost) by rio.magic.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id k518w833002604; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:58:09 +0200 Message-Id: <200606010858.k518w833002604@rio.magic.fr> X-Authentication-Warning: rio.magic.fr: apache owned process doing -bs To: , , translations@grass.itc.it From: Eve Rousseau Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] New translator Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:58:09 GMT X-Posting-IP: 83.157.155.197 X-Mailer: Magic OnLine / WebMail V9.32-18 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 08:58:10 -0000 Hi Daniel, > Also, I just downloaded from CVS and tried to follow the instructions > but for some reason the compiler is not working on my machine and I > can't issue the command make pot. So my question is, what if I just go > straight to the locale/po file and start working with the .po files in > there? Will that work? Well, yes and no : I think that the problem is the file you'll be working on will not be up-to-date (newest messages not merged...) See you, Eve -------------------------------- Interface WebMail / Magic OnLine http://www.magic.fr From neteler@itc.it Thu Jun 1 11:13:25 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k519DPT0022232 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:13:25 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k519DPtA002652 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:13:25 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k519DPLC004559 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:13:25 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k519DPCk004556 for translations@grass.itc.it; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:13:25 +0200 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 11:13:25 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] New translator Message-ID: <20060601091325.GD14261@bartok.itc.it> References: <200606010858.k518w833002604@rio.magic.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200606010858.k518w833002604@rio.magic.fr> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 09:13:25 -0000 On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 08:58:09AM +0000, Eve Rousseau wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > > Also, I just downloaded from CVS and tried to follow the instructions > > but for some reason the compiler is not working on my machine and I > > can't issue the command make pot. So my question is, what if I just go > > straight to the locale/po file and start working with the .po files in > > there? Will that work? > > Well, yes and no : I think that the problem is the file you'll be working on > will not be up-to-date (newest messages not merged...) Right - but I have recently updated all po files (I think), so they should be *currently* fairly up-to-date. I am thinking of installing something like Kartouche http://l10n.kde.org/tools/kartouche/ which is a web based system. Unfortunately it seems to be unmaintained. Does anyone know an alternative? Maybe Rosetta? https://launchpad.net/rosetta Markus From eve.red@magic.fr Thu Jun 1 12:03:23 2006 Received: from rio.magic.fr ([195.154.194.242]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k51A3NJj022285 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:03:23 +0200 Received: from rio.magic.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rio.magic.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k51A3Mx2007348; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:03:22 +0200 Received: from MoL (apache@localhost) by rio.magic.fr (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) with SMTP id k51A3MuN007347; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 12:03:22 +0200 Message-Id: <200606011003.k51A3MuN007347@rio.magic.fr> X-Authentication-Warning: rio.magic.fr: apache owned process doing -bs To: Markus Neteler , translations@grass.itc.it From: Eve Rousseau Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] New translator Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:03:22 GMT X-Posting-IP: 83.157.155.197 X-Mailer: Magic OnLine / WebMail V9.32-18 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 10:03:23 -0000 > Right - but I have recently updated all po files (I think), > so they should be *currently* fairly up-to-date. All right : sorry for the inconvenience... Eve -------------------------------- Interface WebMail / Magic OnLine http://www.magic.fr From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 13:17:32 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k51BHWEx022511 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 13:17:32 +0200 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so469043nfc for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 04:17:32 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=q/ehss43zCjcipLvPXzngfJgcWSMIkzwQKb8YN1WhrtSZJ2gyXKLJ57i65imyOylewv3CUyUdESSAy3r8B5S1i8r/5ufb+Qb9C9J3rXHwYGA46MUhWQPq+PHBdTG9b69WroGncNEnLmKULM+MbsPJ3rufQezJNQz4Ot8Tf8C2nY= Received: by 10.48.233.5 with SMTP id f5mr632091nfh; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 04:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.29.19 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 04:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180606010416h8e56557n4936b18e22d56d64@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 08:16:18 -0300 From: pmarc To: "GRASS i18n" Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] New translator In-Reply-To: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 11:17:32 -0000 2006/5/31, Eve Rousseau : > Good evening Daniel, > > > I talked to Paulo Marcondes (pmarc) about helping him out with the > > Portuguese (Brazilian) translation of GRASS and we where wondering, > > are there any tips/trick for two persons to work on the same language? > > How do people coordinate such things? > > You can split work on files : one working on grasslibs, the other on grassmods > (or maybe between type of messages : fuzzy translations/untranslated). This is what we will try in this first round. We have lots of fuzzy in grassmods and that is making me a bit nervous =D > The main constraint is time available - most often, translators don't work > simultaneously (every other week/month/etc.) ... Therefore, the rule is always : > 1) commit early > 2) commit often This would be ideal, but since GRASS is a bit conservative on CVS write access that won't work so clear cut. I understand this as the devels do not want some newbie to screw up the whole project. Markus, would it be possible to grant write access just to the locale directory on CVS?\ That should solve the issue of translataros write access to cvs. I understand that creating a separate CVS just for translations is out of the question. So, what I am talking to Daniel is for him to send me his whole work, I diff and patch to mine, diff from CVS and the diff goes both to him and Markus. Au revoir, Eve. -- Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org From neteler@itc.it Thu Jun 1 14:41:34 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k51CfYQD023536 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:41:34 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k51CfYWm027858 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:41:34 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k51CfYre022011 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:41:34 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k51CfYQL022010 for translations@grass.itc.it; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:41:34 +0200 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 14:41:34 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] New translator Message-ID: <20060601124134.GM14261@bartok.itc.it> References: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> <9fd2d2180606010416h8e56557n4936b18e22d56d64@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d2180606010416h8e56557n4936b18e22d56d64@mail.gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 12:41:35 -0000 On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 08:16:18AM -0300, pmarc wrote: > 2006/5/31, Eve Rousseau : > >Good evening Daniel, > > > >> I talked to Paulo Marcondes (pmarc) about helping him out with the > >> Portuguese (Brazilian) translation of GRASS and we where wondering, > >> are there any tips/trick for two persons to work on the same language? > >> How do people coordinate such things? > > > >You can split work on files : one working on grasslibs, the other on > >grassmods > >(or maybe between type of messages : fuzzy translations/untranslated). > > This is what we will try in this first round. We have lots of fuzzy in > grassmods and that is making me a bit nervous =D > > >The main constraint is time available - most often, translators don't work > >simultaneously (every other week/month/etc.) ... Therefore, the rule is > >always : > >1) commit early > >2) commit often > > This would be ideal, but since GRASS is a bit conservative on CVS > write access that won't work so clear cut. I understand this as the > devels do not want some newbie to screw up the whole project. The whole idea of restricted CVS write access is that we want the people to be familiar with CVS, at least at working knowledge level. A simple test is that they send us 'CVS diffs' of a submission instead of the whole file. To learn this, spend 10 minutes of your time :-) > Markus, would it be possible to grant write access just to the locale > directory on CVS? > That should solve the issue of translataros write access to cvs. I > understand that creating a separate CVS just for translations is out > of the question. The concept of CVS doesn't support it: you get access to the entire system (which worked well in the past). Once we migrate to SVN (not sure if and when), this will become easy to maintain. > So, what I am talking to Daniel is for him to send me his whole work, > I diff and patch to mine, diff from CVS and the diff goes both to him > and Markus. Cool. I am sure that we can grant access after a short "dry" round of 'CVS diffs'. It is just that *you* tell me that you are willing to learn the few commands. What about writing a Wiki page to teach people about CVS in 10 minutes? A presto Markus > Au revoir, Eve. > -- > Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX > -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) > Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org From daniel.victoria@gmail.com Thu Jun 1 15:04:30 2006 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k51D4Tx1023583 for ; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 15:04:30 +0200 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id k27so506394nfc for ; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 06:04:29 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=EE5rSSWzCLSMeBwLn96IzY0MEByCBJWlSwhq8wttBG4Uq7RooMRt+SH7XINyK2c/e6rZla5SGfQYfG44JCfDtYv2ufFCcw9Vm3g0/p6jhQYpEQewhfaO21pf861hWQGSadIazHveiCNqy1JbQiL4kPNncXWXCUe2T7y6evxL5yY= Received: by 10.48.49.3 with SMTP id w3mr412854nfw; Thu, 01 Jun 2006 06:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.216.2 with HTTP; Thu, 1 Jun 2006 06:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2006 10:02:53 -0300 From: "Daniel Victoria" To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] New translator In-Reply-To: <20060601124134.GM14261@bartok.itc.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> <9fd2d2180606010416h8e56557n4936b18e22d56d64@mail.gmail.com> <20060601124134.GM14261@bartok.itc.it> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:04:30 -0000 Paulo is giving me a short crash course on KBabel diffs so I can send him my work. I guess also the best thing for me to do is to read some CVS tutorials also so I can try and make the diffs. Once I get the hang of it, I could send the diffs to someone (Markus? Paulo?). Cheers Daniel On 6/1/06, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Thu, Jun 01, 2006 at 08:16:18AM -0300, pmarc wrote: > > 2006/5/31, Eve Rousseau : > > >Good evening Daniel, > > > > > >> I talked to Paulo Marcondes (pmarc) about helping him out with the > > >> Portuguese (Brazilian) translation of GRASS and we where wondering, > > >> are there any tips/trick for two persons to work on the same language? > > >> How do people coordinate such things? > > > > > >You can split work on files : one working on grasslibs, the other on > > >grassmods > > >(or maybe between type of messages : fuzzy translations/untranslated). > > > > This is what we will try in this first round. We have lots of fuzzy in > > grassmods and that is making me a bit nervous =D > > > > >The main constraint is time available - most often, translators don't work > > >simultaneously (every other week/month/etc.) ... Therefore, the rule is > > >always : > > >1) commit early > > >2) commit often > > > > This would be ideal, but since GRASS is a bit conservative on CVS > > write access that won't work so clear cut. I understand this as the > > devels do not want some newbie to screw up the whole project. > > The whole idea of restricted CVS write access is that we want the > people to be familiar with CVS, at least at working knowledge > level. > > A simple test is that they send us 'CVS diffs' of a submission > instead of the whole file. To learn this, spend 10 minutes of your > time :-) > > > Markus, would it be possible to grant write access just to the locale > > directory on CVS? > > That should solve the issue of translataros write access to cvs. I > > understand that creating a separate CVS just for translations is out > > of the question. > > The concept of CVS doesn't support it: you get access to the entire > system (which worked well in the past). Once we migrate to SVN (not > sure if and when), this will become easy to maintain. > > > So, what I am talking to Daniel is for him to send me his whole work, > > I diff and patch to mine, diff from CVS and the diff goes both to him > > and Markus. > > Cool. I am sure that we can grant access after a short "dry" round of > 'CVS diffs'. It is just that *you* tell me that you are willing to > learn the few commands. What about writing a Wiki page to teach people > about CVS in 10 minutes? > > A presto > > Markus > > > Au revoir, Eve. > > -- > > Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX > > -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) > > Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org > > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations@grass.itc.it > http://grass.itc.it/mailman/listinfo/translations > From neteler@itc.it Fri Jun 2 00:47:31 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k51MlV6c006874 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:47:31 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k51MlV0P024108 for ; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:47:31 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k51MlVtC004373 for translations@grass.itc.it; Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:47:31 +0200 Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 00:47:31 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20060601224731.GE4244@bartok.itc.it> References: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> <9fd2d2180606010416h8e56557n4936b18e22d56d64@mail.gmail.com> <20060601124134.GM14261@bartok.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060601124134.GM14261@bartok.itc.it> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] Rosetta: GRASS registered X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:47:31 -0000 Hi, I have registered GRASS in the Rosetta system now: https://launchpad.net/products/grass6 Not sure what happens next. Probably the admins there have to approve the project. Somehow we have to make them use the latest .po files, not those of GRASS 6.0.1 which is in Ubuntu. Well, we'll see. Markus From steko@iosa.it Wed Jun 7 09:25:31 2006 Received: from CUCES2.UNISI.IT (cuces2.unisi.it [193.205.4.8]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k577PVQX014313 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:25:31 +0200 Received: from conversion_l.unisi.it by mailsrv.unisi.it (PMDF V6.2-1 #31112) id <01M3C76NQ1KG8Y9VQ9@mailsrv.unisi.it> for translations@grass.itc.it; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:25:39 +0200 (MET-DST) Received: from gqb-06.funaioli.unisi.it (gqb-06.funaioli.unisi.it [172.16.16.86]) by mailsrv.unisi.it (PMDF V6.2-1 #31112) with ESMTPA id <01M3C76P40QO8X3IM7@mailsrv.unisi.it> for translations@grass.itc.it; Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:25:41 +0200 (MET-DST) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 09:25:16 +0200 From: Stefano Costa Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Rosetta: GRASS registered In-reply-to: <20060601224731.GE4244@bartok.itc.it> To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-id: <1149665116.5427.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> <9fd2d2180606010416h8e56557n4936b18e22d56d64@mail.gmail.com> <20060601124134.GM14261@bartok.itc.it> <20060601224731.GE4244@bartok.itc.it> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 07:25:31 -0000 Il giorno ven, 02/06/2006 alle 00.47 +0200, Markus Neteler ha scritto: > Hi, > > I have registered GRASS in the Rosetta system now: > > https://launchpad.net/products/grass6 > > Not sure what happens next. Probably the admins there have to > approve the project. Somehow we have to make them use the > latest .po files, not those of GRASS 6.0.1 which is in Ubuntu. > Well, we'll see. https://launchpad.net/products/grass6/+translations Seems like GRASS GIS has been registered but the translations setup has not been carried out yet. Launchpad is a good translation platform IMHO. Good choice. -- Stefano Costa http://www.iosa.it Software Open Source per l'Archeologia Jabber: steko@jabber.linux.it GnuPG Key ID 1024D/0xD0D30245 Linux Registered User #385969 counter.li.org From neteler@itc.it Wed Jun 7 12:04:30 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k57A4Upd015667 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:04:30 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k57A4UxH001835 for ; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:04:30 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k57A4UaD008733 for translations@grass.itc.it; Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:04:30 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2006 12:04:30 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Rosetta: GRASS registered Message-ID: <20060607100430.GC8647@bartok.itc.it> References: <200605312037.k4VKbhTW029929@rio.magic.fr> <9fd2d2180606010416h8e56557n4936b18e22d56d64@mail.gmail.com> <20060601124134.GM14261@bartok.itc.it> <20060601224731.GE4244@bartok.itc.it> <1149665116.5427.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1149665116.5427.69.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2006 10:04:31 -0000 On Wed, Jun 07, 2006 at 09:25:16AM +0200, Stefano Costa wrote: > Il giorno ven, 02/06/2006 alle 00.47 +0200, Markus Neteler ha scritto: > > Hi, > > > > I have registered GRASS in the Rosetta system now: > > > > https://launchpad.net/products/grass6 > > > > Not sure what happens next. Probably the admins there have to > > approve the project. Somehow we have to make them use the > > latest .po files, not those of GRASS 6.0.1 which is in Ubuntu. > > Well, we'll see. > > https://launchpad.net/products/grass6/+translations > > Seems like GRASS GIS has been registered but the translations setup has > not been carried out yet. Launchpad is a good translation platform IMHO. > Good choice. > Stefano, I didn't figure out how to populate Rosetta with our .po files. Obviously I don't want to see the GRASS 6.0.x .po files there but the 6.1-CVS files. Does anyone know how to proceed there? The FAQ doesn't seem to address this problem. Markus From po@danielnylander.se Mon Jun 12 14:02:13 2006 Received: from av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.180]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5CC2Ci8018075 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:13 +0200 Received: by av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 4AD0D380FA; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av9-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C48337E88 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [81.232.79.236] (81-232-79-236-no46.business.telia.com [81.232.79.236]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBA537E48 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <448D57C2.4030507@danielnylander.se> Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:02:10 +0200 From: Daniel Nylander User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (X11/20060516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: translations@grass.itc.it Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000013, version=1.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] Swedish translation X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 12:02:13 -0000 Hi all, I would like to start working on the Swedish translation. Is there someone else who has already done this? Regards, Daniel From neteler@itc.it Mon Jun 12 21:18:55 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5CJIs5E022531 for ; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:18:55 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5CJIsaC006877; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:18:54 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5CJIsE4012785; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:18:54 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k5CJIsSE012784; Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:18:54 +0200 Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 21:18:54 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: rosetta-users@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <20060612191854.GE12598@bartok.itc.it> References: <20060612114328.GB19707@bartok.itc.it> <20060612180415.GD25086@nubol.oskuro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060612180415.GD25086@nubol.oskuro.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: GRASS GIS project registered X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2006 19:18:55 -0000 Hello Jordi, On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 08:04:15PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: > Hello Markus, > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 01:43:28PM +0200, Markus Neteler wrote: > > I have taken liberty to register the GRASS GIS > > project (GPL'ed) in the Rosetta system: > > > > https://launchpad.net/products/grass6 > > > > We would like to use the system to translate the > > CVS version of GRASS (6.1-CVS) which is way ahead > > of the 6.0.x. The latter is already in ubuntu, but > > it doesn't make much sense to start translations > > on 6.0.x. > > > > I would apprechiate instructions how to upload the > > .po files of 6.1-CVS or how to synchronize Rosetta > > with 6.1-CVS. > > We're happy to host GRASS in Rosetta. ...that's great and will be an important help to speed up of our translation process. Thanks! > In your "trunk" series page, you will find a "Translations" link on the > left portlet, which reveals an "Upload translations" link. > https://launchpad.net/products/grass6/trunk/+translations-upload Ah, I see. > I see grass is using a non-standard layout for translation files: > > locale/po holds the .po files, and locale/pot holds the pot files > (although I don't see any in the CVS snapshot I downloaded). We have the .po files included, but the .pot not (currently). > Rosetta > copes best with "plain", traditional setups like a locale/ dir which > holds: > > cs.po de.po es.po fr.po it.po ja.po ru.po grasslibs.pot, if you only > have one translation domain, as it seems to be the case with GRASS. We have 3 types of .po files per language (see locale/po/): - grasslibs_LANG.po: messages from libraries - grassmods_LANG.po: messages from commands ("modules") - grasstcl_LANG.po: messages from TclTk graphical user interface > This is just a suggestion, Rsoetta can work with your current setup. Can it work with those 3 files per language? > To import your files, just upload a tar.gz to the url above, and Rosetta > will extract the files. The first time you do it, it needs manual > approvement from the Rosetta admins, so please have some patience. :) Absolutely! I'll start uploading after confirmation that our structure works. Thanks again Markus -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From neteler@itc.it Thu Jun 15 00:16:51 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5EMGp7n001679 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:16:51 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5EMGoi0017097 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:16:50 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5EMGorl029583 for ; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:16:50 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k5EMGogi029582 for translations@grass.itc.it; Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:16:50 +0200 Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2006 00:16:50 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Swedish translation Message-ID: <20060614221650.GJ29101@bartok.itc.it> References: <448D57C2.4030507@danielnylander.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <448D57C2.4030507@danielnylander.se> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2006 22:16:51 -0000 Hi Daniel, I am going to upload some languages to Rosetta, a web based translation system. Are you interested to work on the Swedish translation online? Other also interested? We should start with a few languages to find out how it works. Markus On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 02:02:10PM +0200, Daniel Nylander wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to start working on the Swedish translation. > Is there someone else who has already done this? > > Regards, > Daniel From neteler@itc.it Mon Jun 19 09:36:59 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5J7axu6030995 for ; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:36:59 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5J7axEi006734; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:36:59 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5J7ax2Y009623; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:36:59 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k5J7ax6F009622; Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:36:59 +0200 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 09:36:59 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: Jordi Mallach Message-ID: <20060619073658.GA9472@bartok.itc.it> References: <20060618234446.GA24387@nubol.oskuro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20060618234446.GA24387@nubol.oskuro.net> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: translations@grass.itc.it, rosetta-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: Licensing of translation work [Was: Problemas de rosetta] X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:36:59 -0000 On Mon, Jun 19, 2006 at 01:44:46AM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: > Hola Marga, sorry for taking my time to reply, > > [ For the list readers, marga mailed me privately to discuss how Rosetta > handles Copyrights for translations created in Rosetta. She discovered > that a translation she had submitted was exporting with a > > | # Copyright (c) (c) 2006 Canonical Ltd, and Rosetta Contributors 2006 > > copyright header, and she thinks this is not right. ] > > I've discussed your concerns with some other Launchpad people. > > First of all, we don't think the copyright is being "transfered" to > Canonical. At the very least, it would be shared between Canonical and > you, the Rosetta Contributor. > > The sole reason Canonical is adding this header is because we want to be > able to share the translator's work across different, freely licenced > products that are available for translation in Rosetta. As not all > projects use the same licence, this is necessary to be able to do it no > matter what. > > The discussion is ongoing internally, but we will try to make this very > clear in the Legalese page of Launchpad (https://launchpad.net/legal/). > > Thanks, > Jordi > -- > Jordi Mallach Pérez -- Debian developer http://www.debian.org/ > jordi@sindominio.net jordi@debian.org http://www.sindominio.net/ > GnuPG public key information available at http://oskuro.net/ Jordi, please let us know once https://launchpad.net/legal/ is updated. The copyright non/assignment also affects our GRASS project, so we would like to have a clear isea about copyright issues before using Rosetta. thanks Markus > -- > rosetta-users mailing list > rosetta-users@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/rosetta-users > Learn more about Rosetta: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rosetta -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From steko@iosa.it Mon Jun 26 09:59:27 2006 Received: from CUCES2.UNISI.IT (cuces2.unisi.it [193.205.4.8]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5Q7xRHY005603 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:59:27 +0200 Received: from conversion_l.unisi.it by mailsrv.unisi.it (PMDF V6.2-1 #31112) id <01M42RWDAP0091ZLQH@mailsrv.unisi.it> for translations@grass.itc.it; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:59:38 +0200 (MET-DST) Received: from gqb-06.funaioli.unisi.it (gqb-06.funaioli.unisi.it [172.16.16.86]) by mailsrv.unisi.it (PMDF V6.2-1 #31112) with ESMTPA id <01M42RWD0A5G91ZOW7@mailsrv.unisi.it> for translations@grass.itc.it; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:59:38 +0200 (MET-DST) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 09:59:10 +0200 From: Stefano Costa To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-id: <1151308750.14750.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Content-type: text/plain Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] grass in rosetta ? X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:59:27 -0000 Are there any updates on the GRASS translations in Rosetta? Stefano -- Stefano Costa http://www.iosa.it Software Open Source per l'Archeologia Jabber: steko@jabber.linux.it GnuPG Key ID 1024D/0xD0D30245 Linux Registered User #385969 counter.li.org From neteler@itc.it Mon Jun 26 10:13:38 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5Q8Dc0H006154 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:13:38 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k5Q8DcAB002815 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:13:38 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k5Q8DcwW016403 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:13:38 +0200 Received: (from neteler@localhost) by bartok.itc.it. (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k5Q8DcmA016402 for translations@grass.itc.it; Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:13:38 +0200 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:13:37 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] grass in rosetta ? Message-ID: <20060626081337.GC15993@bartok.itc.it> References: <1151308750.14750.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1151308750.14750.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 08:13:38 -0000 On Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 09:59:10AM +0200, Stefano Costa wrote: > Are there any updates on the GRASS translations in Rosetta? > No news so far: https://launchpad.net/products/grass6/+translations "Administrator help needed. GRASS GIS has not yet been setup for translation through Rosetta." The files are sitting on their server... and wait... Markus From lists@nabble.com Sat Jul 1 16:12:17 2006 Received: from talk.nabble.com (www.nabble.com [72.21.53.35]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k61ECH6H003171 for ; Sat, 1 Jul 2006 16:12:17 +0200 Received: from [72.21.53.38] (helo=jubjub.nabble.com) by talk.nabble.com with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1FwgCm-0004ru-PV for translations@grass.itc.it; Sat, 01 Jul 2006 07:12:16 -0700 Message-ID: <5132567.post@talk.nabble.com> Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 06:56:44 -0700 (PDT) From: censurato To: translations@grass.itc.it MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Nabble-Sender: face_ctrl@yahoo.com X-Nabble-From: censurato X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.045365, version=1.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] Italian -> English (Help) X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 14:12:17 -0000 Please, help me to translate from Italian to English - " Perche vuoi resistere al tentazione?" I found the words separately but something is not ok... Thanks in advance ! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Italian--%3E-English-%28Help%29-tf1877342.html#a5132567 Sent from the Grass - Translate forum at Nabble.com. From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Mon Jul 3 02:55:48 2006 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.224]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k630tlLf030269 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2006 02:55:48 +0200 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i20so557432wra for ; Sun, 02 Jul 2006 17:55:47 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=LXNOCjK1RzJFGndNS2OrgbthZUeyytEfMBsAl4RIF+hSmfTwkiU6QgKJguHHvBwObzSvlDzeyd7yc6yge2kbMj9vn4AbsPDd1osj7aKUvUqKUXnD5/wo/4tWm0yYZ3FtCQBpw/wSyQLC9B6kmyLln3qKE/pph7JVokBY037Lh3M= Received: by 10.54.140.13 with SMTP id n13mr42302wrd; Sun, 02 Jul 2006 17:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.139.4 with HTTP; Sun, 2 Jul 2006 17:55:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180607021755p2f9c5fd2y7449899c85c5610f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 21:55:47 -0300 From: pmarc To: "Markus Neteler" , "GRASS i18n" , "Daniel Victoria" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: Subject: [GRASS translations] Brazilian Portuguese translation X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 00:55:48 -0000 Hi Markus, Daniel, all. I merged some messages from the pot-files, translated some, unfuzzied some others. Markus, please upload to cvs. Daniel: please updae from cvs =] I will be reviewing some fuzzy entries through the next weeks, so you could work as you like. Be sure to update before starting to work. -- Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org From neteler@itc.it Mon Jul 3 08:40:53 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k636erSd000900 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2006 08:40:53 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k636erb5021143; Mon, 3 Jul 2006 08:40:53 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k636erlT028240; Mon, 3 Jul 2006 08:40:53 +0200 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 08:40:53 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: pmarc Message-ID: <20060703064053.GA28230@bartok.itc.it> References: <9fd2d2180607021755p2f9c5fd2y7449899c85c5610f@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <9fd2d2180607021755p2f9c5fd2y7449899c85c5610f@mail.gmail.com> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: GRASS i18n Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: Brazilian Portuguese translation X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 06:40:54 -0000 Hi Paulo, ... new messaged added to CVS. Thanks! Happy translating, Markus On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 09:55:47PM -0300, pmarc wrote: > Hi Markus, Daniel, all. > > I merged some messages from the pot-files, > translated some, unfuzzied some others. > > Markus, please upload to cvs. > > Daniel: > please updae from cvs =] > I will be reviewing some fuzzy entries through the next weeks, so > you could work as you like. > Be sure to update before starting to work. > > -- > Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX > -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) > Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org From neteler@itc.it Fri Jul 7 11:59:43 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k679xhXb018913 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:59:43 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k679xhxd009264; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:59:43 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k679xgHg014071; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:59:42 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 11:59:42 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20060707095942.GC10515@bartok.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] Russian .po files recreated X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 09:59:43 -0000 Hi, I have recreated the damaged Russian .po files for GRASS. Now they are in KOI8-R charset. I got motivated by a message which I re-read by chance http://grass.itc.it/pipermail/translations/2006-March/000183.html http://grass.itc.it/pipermail/translations/2006-March/000184.html Russian translators: So please save done work into a separate directory before updatring from CVS. So far I didn't receive any translations, so probably it's still on the way :-) If you have problems to merge stuff, let me know. Cheers Markus -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it/markus/ ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy From neteler@itc.it Fri Jul 7 12:09:35 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k67A9Zn6018959 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:09:35 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k67A9Zdj015045 for translations@grass.itc.it; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:09:35 +0200 Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:09:35 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: translations@grass.itc.it Message-ID: <20060707100935.GE10515@bartok.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Subject: [GRASS translations] Auto-translation trick X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 10:09:35 -0000 Hi, since we have tons of messages, would it work to merge all files of a language into a single temporary file, then load this as dictionary to run "rough translation" in kbabel? Replicated messages should be auto-translated then... ? Markus From paulomarcondes@gmail.com Fri Jul 7 12:44:57 2006 Received: from wr-out-0506.google.com (wr-out-0506.google.com [64.233.184.225]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k67Aiu8e019140 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 12:44:57 +0200 Received: by wr-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id i22so1272350wra for ; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:44:55 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=peM01JgFI04jq7HGtaF/XZ4X97kleyLJethMrtGF34Y8De/WCg1awgPu7wxX67ebBhC4UgQtB12MSltpE3uAjEw8SktpxuHfYF1zQpqjAyBnqIM0MnlPj3rK1o+Ay5LJebARewgMmTMMVkJr6zNUeTDIJgpJ3NkKVlvYSdkynF4= Received: by 10.54.93.12 with SMTP id q12mr1467711wrb; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 03:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.139.4 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 03:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9fd2d2180607070344w51752182sb5485da2d7de564a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 07:44:55 -0300 From: pmarc To: "GRASS i18n" Subject: Re: [GRASS translations] Auto-translation trick In-Reply-To: <20060707100935.GE10515@bartok.itc.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060707100935.GE10515@bartok.itc.it> X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 10:44:57 -0000 2006/7/7, Markus Neteler : > since we have tons of messages, would it work to merge > all files of a language into a single temporary file, then > load this as dictionary to run "rough translation" in > kbabel? Replicated messages should be auto-translated > then... Markus, I don't know how rough translation works with german or english. All I can say about it is: in portuguese it is _so_ rough that it takes me more time to correct than to translate. I doubt it works in other latin languages. In the end, I very seldom use it. -- Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX -22.915 -42.229 = GG87vc (http://www.amsat.org/cgi-bin/gridconv) Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org From neteler@itc.it Sat Jul 15 15:09:32 2006 Received: from orchestra.itc.it ([10.0.10.11]) by grass.itc.it (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k6FD9WOu027309 for ; Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:09:32 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (bartok [10.40.0.190]) by orchestra.itc.it (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k6FD9WPZ029373; Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:09:32 +0200 Received: from bartok.itc.it. (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by bartok.itc.it. 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(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k6FD9VeY009147; Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:09:31 +0200 Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 15:09:31 +0200 From: Markus Neteler To: rosetta-users@lists.ubuntu.com Message-ID: <20060715130931.GA9134@bartok.itc.it> References: <20060612114328.GB19707@bartok.itc.it> <20060612180415.GD25086@nubol.oskuro.net> <20060612191854.GE12598@bartok.itc.it> <20060618143851.GA18930@nubol.oskuro.net> <20060618192110.GA6032@bartok.itc.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060618192110.GA6032@bartok.itc.it> X-PGP-Key: http://www.gdf-hannover.de/neteler/markus_gpgkey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: D4D5 2F80 120E AD60 E2F6 2297 21B3 D02B E1E7 E789 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 X-Bogosity: Ham, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000000, version=1.0.2 Cc: translations@grass.itc.it Subject: [GRASS translations] Re: GRASS GIS project registered X-BeenThere: translations@grass.itc.it X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Translation of GRASS \(i18N\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2006 13:09:32 -0000 Dear admins, are there any news how to proceed with GRASS translations? I am not aware that the uploaded files were processed by Rosetta [1]. thanks Markus [1] https://launchpad.net/products/grass6 No translation templates registered upstream or in Ubuntu On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 09:21:10PM +0200, Markus Neteler wrote: > On Sun, Jun 18, 2006 at 04:38:52PM +0200, Jordi Mallach wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 09:18:54PM +0200, Markus Neteler wrote: > > > We have the .po files included, but the .pot not (currently). > > > > Ok, for Rosetta it is very important to include the pot. > > Sure. > I have included them (3 pots) in the upload. They are just not > in GRASS-CVS since 'make pot' creates them. > > > > We have 3 types of .po files per language (see locale/po/): > > > > > > - grasslibs_LANG.po: messages from libraries > > > - grassmods_LANG.po: messages from commands ("modules") > > > - grasstcl_LANG.po: messages from TclTk graphical user interface > > > > > > > This is just a suggestion, Rsoetta can work with your current setup. > > > > > > Can it work with those 3 files per language? > > > > Yeah, it will mean some manual editing of the import but it'll be ok. It > > should only be needed for the first upload though. > > > > > I'll start uploading after confirmation that our structure works. > > > > Go for it! > > Done! > I have uploaded 3 languages so far to experiment. For the other > 13 languages we have to sync with our translators first. But > these 3 will be sufficient to study the process. I still have to > understand how to retrieve the translations later for our CVS, > I guess that I should read the instructions :-) > > thanks > Markus > > -- > Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it > ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica > MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis > Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy -- Markus Neteler http://mpa.itc.it/markus/ ITC-irst - Centro per la Ricerca Scientifica e Tecnologica MPBA - Predictive Models for Biol. & Environ. Data Analysis Via Sommarive, 18 - 38050 Povo (Trento), Italy